[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

The root of this for me: ... Can we all just go back to a time when we all spoke for ourselves...

That would be right-wing conservatives would have to stop butting into the lives of LGBT people. So no, that won't be happening any time soon.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by BBXX

That would be right-wing conservatives would have to stop butting into the lives of LGBT people. So no, that won't be happening any time soon.

I realize it's not the LGBT specifically, but the politics that have hijacked them for their own grift, but they don't have a right to butt into the issues of others, is my point...

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

I realize it's not the LGBT specifically, but the politics that have hijacked them for their own grift, but they don't have a right to butt into the issues of others, is my point...

It works both ways though, and by far and away, it's none-LGBT people butting into the issues of LGBT people that happens more.

We can't even have representation in a kids movie without it being called grooming.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by BBXX

It works both ways though, and by far and away, it's none-LGBT people butting into the issues of LGBT people that happens more.

We can't even have representation in a kids movie without it being called grooming.

This is exactly what I mean, though. You're butting in right now into the comments to talk about LGBT issues when the issues I'm concerned with are my own rights, ie women's issues... and you're basically telling me your issues are more important. And that's fair, to you, they are very important obviously... (and should be)

But you're proving also why the busybody behavior is not very conducive to a constructive outcome. I do not want the LGBT* portion involved at all because they're putting their needs over my own.

* The entity itself

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

This is exactly what I mean, though. You're butting in right now into the comments to talk about LGBT issues when the issues I'm concerned with are my own rights, ie women's issues... and you're basically telling me your issues are more important. And that's fair, to you, they are very important obviously... (and should be)

But you're proving also why the busybody behavior is not very conducive to a constructive outcome. I do not want the LGBT* portion involved at all because they're putting their needs over my own.

* The entity itself

Transgenderism has been the main topic of this entire thread even though there is no actual reputable evidence of Imane being Transgender.

To say then that I am butting in to discuss LGBT rights when it's about women is a bit unfair. If you want people to just talk about themselves rather than other 'groups' then perhaps start first by levelling that critique at the non LGBT people in this thread rather than me, who is speaking in defence of the anti-trans rhetoric in this thread that exists for no good reason because there is no solid evidence Imane is even trans.

What's the phrase... something about the call coming from inside the house...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Transgenderism has been the main topic of this entire thread even though there is no actual reputable evidence of Imane being Transgender.

To say then that I am butting in to discuss LGBT rights when it's about women is a bit unfair. If you want people to just talk about themselves rather than other 'groups' then perhaps start first by levelling that critique at the non LGBT people in this thread rather than me, who is speaking in defence of the anti-trans rhetoric in this thread that exists for no good reason because there is no solid evidence Imane is even trans.

What's the phrase... something about the call coming from inside the house...

I don't think Imane is trans, I think they have a DSD and are probably biologically male but were raised as a girl because that's what they looked like as a baby. I think why trans is being brought into it is because the trans lobby have jumped on this case as a way to legitimise biological males being allowed to compete in the female category.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think Imane is trans, I think they have a DSD and are probably biologically male but were raised as a girl because that's what they looked like as a baby. I think why trans is being brought into it is because the trans lobby have jumped on this case as a way to legitimise biological males being allowed to compete in the female category.

Trans is being bought into it because people are assuming she's biologically male despite having no evidence.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Transgenderism has been the main topic of this entire thread even though there is no actual reputable evidence of Imane being Transgender.

They were denied in the past and their inclusion was based on a change in policy regarding genetic testing. I do not agree biological men belong in women's sports. That's pretty much it for me.

Newer article on it: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-b2641491.html

To say then that I am butting in to discuss LGBT rights when it's about women is a bit unfair. If you want people to just talk about themselves rather than other 'groups' then perhaps start first by levelling that critique at the non LGBT people in this thread rather than me, who is speaking in defence of the anti-trans rhetoric in this thread that exists for no good reason because there is no solid evidence Imane is even trans.

What's the phrase... something about the call coming from inside the house...

Because you responded to my comment, respectfully I responded back. There's not much else to be said... as I had mentioned, there's not many non-LGBT-eccentric women arguing for this. And others have done a better job of arguing the issue, so I don't always feel the need to add the sound of my own voice to things...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

It works both ways though, and by far and away, it's none-LGBT people butting into the issues of LGBT people that happens more.

We can't even have representation in a kids movie without it being called grooming.

But think of the children, protect the kids.

But seriously I agree with you, I swear that some people see Paedophilia as only an LGBT crime.