[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

This is exactly what I mean, though. You're butting in right now into the comments to talk about LGBT issues when the issues I'm concerned with are my own rights, ie women's issues... and you're basically telling me your issues are more important. And that's fair, to you, they are very important obviously... (and should be)

But you're proving also why the busybody behavior is not very conducive to a constructive outcome. I do not want the LGBT* portion involved at all because they're putting their needs over my own.

* The entity itself

Transgenderism has been the main topic of this entire thread even though there is no actual reputable evidence of Imane being Transgender.

To say then that I am butting in to discuss LGBT rights when it's about women is a bit unfair. If you want people to just talk about themselves rather than other 'groups' then perhaps start first by levelling that critique at the non LGBT people in this thread rather than me, who is speaking in defence of the anti-trans rhetoric in this thread that exists for no good reason because there is no solid evidence Imane is even trans.

What's the phrase... something about the call coming from inside the house...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Transgenderism has been the main topic of this entire thread even though there is no actual reputable evidence of Imane being Transgender.

To say then that I am butting in to discuss LGBT rights when it's about women is a bit unfair. If you want people to just talk about themselves rather than other 'groups' then perhaps start first by levelling that critique at the non LGBT people in this thread rather than me, who is speaking in defence of the anti-trans rhetoric in this thread that exists for no good reason because there is no solid evidence Imane is even trans.

What's the phrase... something about the call coming from inside the house...

I don't think Imane is trans, I think they have a DSD and are probably biologically male but were raised as a girl because that's what they looked like as a baby. I think why trans is being brought into it is because the trans lobby have jumped on this case as a way to legitimise biological males being allowed to compete in the female category.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think Imane is trans, I think they have a DSD and are probably biologically male but were raised as a girl because that's what they looked like as a baby. I think why trans is being brought into it is because the trans lobby have jumped on this case as a way to legitimise biological males being allowed to compete in the female category.

Trans is being bought into it because people are assuming she's biologically male despite having no evidence.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Trans is being bought into it because people are assuming she's biologically male despite having no evidence.

I wouldn't say no evidence

https://www.iba.sport/news/statement...20Delhi%202023.

Both these boxers were found to have the male karyotype XY, couple that with the fact that Imane looks like a man,(look at that photo below, they're whole build is male) lets not sugar coat this, you can surely understand why women would be concerned?

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wouldn't say no evidence

https://www.iba.sport/news/statement...20Delhi%202023.

Both these boxers were found to have the male karyotype XY, couple that with the fact that Imane looks like a man,(look at that photo below, they're whole build is male) lets not sugar coat this, you can surely understand why women would be concerned?

The IBA were stripped of their credentials as the global body for the sport by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) due to its failure to complete reforms on governance, finance and ethical issues.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by BBXX

The IBA were stripped of their credentials as the global body for the sport by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) due to its failure to complete reforms on governance, finance and ethical issues.

Yes I'm aware of that. That doesn't mean these tests were falsified though nor does it explain why neither boxer appealed the decisions (Imane did but later withdrew)

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Transgenderism has been the main topic of this entire thread even though there is no actual reputable evidence of Imane being Transgender.

They were denied in the past and their inclusion was based on a change in policy regarding genetic testing. I do not agree biological men belong in women's sports. That's pretty much it for me.

Newer article on it: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-b2641491.html

To say then that I am butting in to discuss LGBT rights when it's about women is a bit unfair. If you want people to just talk about themselves rather than other 'groups' then perhaps start first by levelling that critique at the non LGBT people in this thread rather than me, who is speaking in defence of the anti-trans rhetoric in this thread that exists for no good reason because there is no solid evidence Imane is even trans.

What's the phrase... something about the call coming from inside the house...

Because you responded to my comment, respectfully I responded back. There's not much else to be said... as I had mentioned, there's not many non-LGBT-eccentric women arguing for this. And others have done a better job of arguing the issue, so I don't always feel the need to add the sound of my own voice to things...