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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What is centrism? What are the political aims and objectives of "the centre?"

Don't rock the boatism? We live in a world where right wing media rules the roost, so this is pretty much the exclusive doctrine we get shoved down our throats on a constant loop, so which boat are we fighting against rocking?

The left won the election recently in France. The centrist, Macron, put a stop to that. He wouldn't have prevented Le Pen taking office. Is Macron a based online nerd?

America has been working to unseat any leftist in South America for over 100 years. They also have caused most of the issues (along with the UK) in the middle east, by replacing any semi-progressive government.

Hitler was invited into power by social democrats.

Lets look at your political positions. When it comes to social issues, you hold views that are closer to the reactionary right - not talking about trans stuff, but I believe I've read you say that you would ban relationships between a 21 and 30yr olds, for example (obviously this was hypothetical as you don't have that power). I have no idea what your views are towards economic policy, because it's not really policy you've shown much interest in discussing, I believe (if I've missed your manifesto on economic redistribution, then I apologise, but I don't think I have). Economically hidden, socially conservative. Folks with those views up and down the country are being radicalised into reform by culture war issues, they are not joining the communist workers party. Because I somewhat know you, I wouldn't think you are a reform voter, but if you don't recognise what I've just laid out, as a real measurement of British Centrism, then I would implore you to think about it again.

Take Cherie - a former LD/Lab/Green voter, fully on board with tommy and Nigels riots

Take kate - supported Corbyns labour, but now a full Robinson acolyte.

Is this the centrism that the vast majority hold? Are Kate and Cherie victims of social media and being permanently online?

Part of the issue Slim is that I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what centrism actually entails; it's not balancing on a left/right seesaw hoping to find a centrist equilibrium on every political stance, this is the misunderstanding that leads to people who don't tribally align themselves to either the left or right as "fence sitting". I come under fire for taking strong positions on pretty much any subject you can name on this forum. Not for fence sitting. If anything, for being "overly confident of a strong opinion". I get that same accusation from people on the clear left and right. Not accusations of over-neutrality; I'm branded a MSM brainwashed wokey by the Reform crew and a right-leaning conservative by what remains of the forum's social left. Frequently on the same day. Occasionally on the same thread. It's a real rollercoaster sometimes .

For the bit in bold you're incorrect I have never said that I would legally "ban" relationships between adults of any age; what I have said is that I find relationships with large age gaps, where one person is young (probably under 25, definitely under 21) to be highly suspect, personally morally questionable, and if a friend my age started banging a 21 year old I'd not be particularly interested in continuing to call them a friend. I don't want it banned, I wouldn't introduce any aspect of legislation or legality into that at all. But therein lies the problem, maybe? That you automatically assume that a moral personal stance MUST be related to a corresponding legal or political stance? That isn't the real world as I experience it, for most sensible adults, it's the realm of ... well, internet BS ... a warped reality that really reflects nothing particularly real, and yet increasingly spills over into the real world, because you have idiots that have no comprehension of what they're reading protesting and rioting for reasons they don't actually understand. Because they were told it was the way to go, by those they politically align themselves with, and who they trust do know what they're talking about.

As for economic stance that one is fairly simple; I don't talk about it on here because there's no point talking about it on here. The sort of "right and left" being referred to on most of the internet, and 100% on this forum, has absolutely jack to do with economics . We're talking about populations who need a calculator to figure out 20% VAT. Who believe that the answer to everyone having more money is everyone getting better jobs. Waste of time. It's not a conversation worth even entertaining.