[Beso]

You posed it as a question, then added the sniggering smiley.

[The Slim Reaper]

Sniggering smiley

If I'd wanted it to be a gotcha, I could have used the search function.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Pigeon Lady

……it’s good to chirp in with a thread now and again, sir…

[arista]

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Pigeon Lady

Lunch breaks are for wimps, says Kemi Badenoch…

Kemi Badenoch has said lunch breaks are “for wimps”.

The Conservative leader revealed she brings in food to the office and eats while getting on with her work because “there is no time”.

She used a line from Wall Street’s Gordon Gekko when explaining that she does not spend time away from her desk for a midday meal.

Gekko, played by Michael Douglas in the 1987 film set in the world of New York corporate finance, famously declared: “Lunch is for wimps.” He was also known for the quote: “Greed, for lack of a better word, is good.”

Mrs Badenoch also declared that she did not believe that sandwiches were a “real food” and that she “would not touch bread if it’s moist”.

Her revelations come after she was criticised during the summer for not attending hustings to spend time with her family.

Criticism over children

Christopher Chope, a Tory MP, sparked controversy when he said she was “too preoccupied with her children” to be leader of the opposition.

Asked about her down time since becoming leader, Mrs Badenoch told The Spectator: “What’s decompressing, what’s that? What’s a lunch break? Lunch is for wimps.

“I have food brought in and I work and eat at the same time. There’s no time.”

The Conservative Party leader, who worked at The Spectator before leaving in 2016, also revealed some of her lunch preferences, expressing a distaste for sandwiches.

In her interview with the magazine’s new editor, Michael Gove, and Katy Balls, its political editor, she said: “Sometimes I will get a steak... I’m not a sandwich person.

“I don’t think sandwiches are a real food, it’s what you have for breakfast. I will not touch bread if it’s moist.”

Mrs Badenoch became the leader of the Tories in November, after a lengthy leadership contest in which she ultimately beat her nearest rival Robert Jenrick, now her shadow justice secretary.

She put the embrace of capitalism at the centre of her pitch, and said that it should no longer be considered a “dirty word”.

The former business secretary became embroiled in a row over whether or not maternity pay was set at the right level for businesses, after suggesting that it was “excessive”.

Mrs Badenoch is said to have quit her job at The Spectator in 2016 because she felt it would be “unfair” to keep the post open while she went on maternity leave to have her second child.

She also joked during the interview for the Christmas edition of the Spectator that anybody who puts decorations up before 1 December “should be fined”.

“That’s my ban!” she added.

The Tory leader went on to criticise Sir Keir Starmer for revealing that he might watch Love Actually over the festive period, as she believed that the film has “quite a lot of dark undertones”.

“There is a British prime minister who’s messing around and is not doing the foreign policy properly, people are cheating and there is a lot going on there if you move away from the smiley, happy, cheesy stuff,” she said, adding that she prefers watching Die Hard.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/kemi-baden...100933336.html

That's too much information Kemi.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Because it's not really a true ideology. The centre basically always capitulates to the right, but they just don't want to admit they love the cruelty.

That's more of a faux centre person imo.

Anyone that's truly centre in Politics should be trying to aim for the best policies that the left and the right bring to the table.

Unfortunately like you've already said Slim, most of these Centre parties always end up picking a side.

[Oliver_W]

Taking "Bread and Circuses" quite literally.

[joeysteele]

She really would be better looking at how she is going to see off the Reform lot, instead of saying nonsense like this.

Lunch breaks are extremely important as are other breaks in the working day.
As for sandwiches, what possessed her say such tripe.
I make my own sandwiches plus as a vegetarian I like to be inventive with sandwiches too.
A sandwich can be better than a hurriedly bought or prepared other meal.
Plus more nourishing too.

She's quite a disappointment unfortunately.
Because all she seems to be doing is feed more to the Reform lot.
Unfortunately too, considering Starmer is really poor at PMQs, she's at times even worse.
I just shake my head in disbelief at what she raises.

Again we are left with 2 of the worst leaders possible.
In my view, there's not ONE good leader across ALL the Parties.
Even in BOTH the Green leaders.

Kemi Badenoch really needs to prioritise where her battles need to be massively better than she is doing now.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Sniggering smiley

If I'd wanted it to be a gotcha, I could have used the search function.

The search function for what, are you saying I am lying? because I am not ...search away

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Because it's not really a true ideology. The centre basically always capitulates to the right, but they just don't want to admit they love the cruelty.

Don't be ridiculous

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Santa Goth

That's more of a faux centre person imo.

Anyone that's truly centre in Politics should be trying to aim for the best policies that the left and the right bring to the table.

Unfortunately like you've already said Slim, most of these Centre parties always end up picking a side.

No party is truely bad or truely good they all have something to bring to the table, and some policies that should be roundly rejected

[bots]

the centre ground is where the majority of the planet reside in politics. It's laughable to criticise that position

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bots

the centre ground is where the majority of the planet reside in politics. It's laughable to criticise that position

Indeed. I can understand the point, Slim, that a lot of people on the right CLAIM the centre because they're not yet emboldened enough to declare that they are in fact on the right - but that's "internet stuff" / SoMed and forum rhetoric.

In the real world, the vast majority of people lie "around the centre" on the majority of issues and will shift left or right on specific issues usually depending on personal biases and experiences. Free-thinking people at least, not copy-paste-opinion Trumpists etc. or their equivalent to the left, which obviously does exist.

It depends on the people you encounter and the circles you move in. These days the vast majority of people I work with are just-left-of-centre and (believe me) it doesn't mean that there aren't strong opinions and convictions. They're just rational, reasoned, adult opinions with some element of practicality, rather than internet naval-gazing, idealism and point-scoring. Which I will concede - we're ALL guilty of. It's a guilty pleasure. It's not the real world, which can be easy to forget.

[UserSince2005]

I'm doing what Miss Kami asks, no lunch break for me today.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

She really would be better looking at how she is going to see off the Reform lot, instead of saying nonsense like this.

Lunch breaks are extremely important as are other breaks in the working day.
As for sandwiches, what possessed her say such tripe.
I make my own sandwiches plus as a vegetarian I like to be inventive with sandwiches too.
A sandwich can be better than a hurriedly bought or prepared other meal.
Plus more nourishing too.

She's quite a disappointment unfortunately.
Because all she seems to be doing is feed more to the Reform lot.
Unfortunately too, considering Starmer is really poor at PMQs, she's at times even worse.
I just shake my head in disbelief at what she raises.

Again we are left with 2 of the worst leaders possible.
In my view, there's not ONE good leader across ALL the Parties.
Even in BOTH the Green leaders.

Kemi Badenoch really needs to prioritise where her battles need to be massively better than she is doing now.

I 100% agree with your points Joey.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

No party is truely bad or truely good they all have something to bring to the table, and some policies that should be roundly rejected

I agree with you.

It's why I would like to see a party merge the best of what all of the major parties have to offer.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Quantum Bauble

Indeed. I can understand the point, Slim, that a lot of people on the right CLAIM the centre because they're not yet emboldened enough to declare that they are in fact on the right - but that's "internet stuff" / SoMed and forum rhetoric.

In the real world, the vast majority of people lie "around the centre" on the majority of issues and will shift left or right on specific issues usually depending on personal biases and experiences. Free-thinking people at least, not copy-paste-opinion Trumpists etc. or their equivalent to the left, which obviously does exist.

It depends on the people you encounter and the circles you move in. These days the vast majority of people I work with are just-left-of-centre and (believe me) it doesn't mean that there aren't strong opinions and convictions. They're just rational, reasoned, adult opinions with some element of practicality, rather than internet naval-gazing, idealism and point-scoring. Which I will concede - we're ALL guilty of. It's a guilty pleasure. It's not the real world, which can be easy to forget.

Yep, agree with you and bots, I would consider myself centre but left leaning. I would never like to identify wholly and unquestionably with either side or ideology, each issue is different and I want to think about each one on it's own merits

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

The search function for what, are you saying I am lying? because I am not ...search away

No, I'm saying if I'd actually wanted it to be a gotcha, I would have searched first and checked whether that was the case, but I didn't, I posed it as a question.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Santa Goth

I agree with you.

It's why I would like to see a party merge the best of what all of the major parties have to offer.

wait, Labour have a best thing to offer??

[Alf]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Yep, agree with you and bots, I would consider myself centre but left leaning. I would never like to identify wholly and unquestionably with either side or ideology, each issue is different and I want to think about each one on it's own merits

Quantin bauble sees himself as intelligent because he got indoctrinated at university. But the reality is that he's thick as pig sh!t.

Where did his attendance at university get him, being a failed bookie, that's where.

Go ahead, delete this post. Whilst at the same time agreeing with his post, which obviously had an insulting dig at me as being a Trump supporter.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

No, I'm saying if I'd actually wanted it to be a gotcha, I would have searched first and checked whether that was the case, but I didn't, I posed it as a question.

aw right thanks for the clarification, I see no reason to lie on here, what would it achieve I did to my eternal shame vote Lib Dib in the Nick Clegg era...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Quantum Bauble

Indeed. I can understand the point, Slim, that a lot of people on the right CLAIM the centre because they're not yet emboldened enough to declare that they are in fact on the right - but that's "internet stuff" / SoMed and forum rhetoric.

In the real world, the vast majority of people lie "around the centre" on the majority of issues and will shift left or right on specific issues usually depending on personal biases and experiences. Free-thinking people at least, not copy-paste-opinion Trumpists etc. or their equivalent to the left, which obviously does exist.

It depends on the people you encounter and the circles you move in. These days the vast majority of people I work with are just-left-of-centre and (believe me) it doesn't mean that there aren't strong opinions and convictions. They're just rational, reasoned, adult opinions with some element of practicality, rather than internet naval-gazing, idealism and point-scoring. Which I will concede - we're ALL guilty of. It's a guilty pleasure. It's not the real world, which can be easy to forget.

What is centrism? What are the political aims and objectives of "the centre?"

Don't rock the boatism? We live in a world where right wing media rules the roost, so this is pretty much the exclusive doctrine we get shoved down our throats on a constant loop, so which boat are we fighting against rocking?

The left won the election recently in France. The centrist, Macron, put a stop to that. He wouldn't have prevented Le Pen taking office. Is Macron a based online nerd?

America has been working to unseat any leftist in South America for over 100 years. They also have caused most of the issues (along with the UK) in the middle east, by replacing any semi-progressive government.

Hitler was invited into power by social democrats.

Lets look at your political positions. When it comes to social issues, you hold views that are closer to the reactionary right - not talking about trans stuff, but I believe I've read you say that you would ban relationships between a 21 and 30yr olds, for example (obviously this was hypothetical as you don't have that power). I have no idea what your views are towards economic policy, because it's not really policy you've shown much interest in discussing, I believe (if I've missed your manifesto on economic redistribution, then I apologise, but I don't think I have). Economically hidden, socially conservative. Folks with those views up and down the country are being radicalised into reform by culture war issues, they are not joining the communist workers party. Because I somewhat know you, I wouldn't think you are a reform voter, but if you don't recognise what I've just laid out, as a real measurement of British Centrism, then I would implore you to think about it again.

Take Cherie - a former LD/Lab/Green voter, fully on board with tommy and Nigels riots

Take kate - supported Corbyns labour, but now a full Robinson acolyte.

Is this the centrism that the vast majority hold? Are Kate and Cherie victims of social media and being permanently online?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bots

the centre ground is where the majority of the planet reside in politics. It's laughable to criticise that position

You're a tory. Remember when you pretended you weren't, and then Girth posted a quote of you saying "I'm a tory?" Classic bots

[bots]

i voted tory once in over 40 years when Thatcher was still around. See, this may be an alien concept to you, but peoples political views can change. For the record, i haven't voted in the last 3 general elections. My last vote was to remain in the EU

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bots

i voted tory once in over 40 years when Thatcher was still around. See, this may be an alien concept to you, but peoples political views can change. For the record, i haven't voted in the last 3 general elections. My last vote was to remain in the EU

Pretending centrism is the way, and only admitting to voting tory when thatcher was on the ballot does not tally up. Was it Thatchers destruction of industry, or was it is the opening salvo of selling off our infrastructure to the highest bidder? Maybe it was the complete reduction in the taxation of corporations that appealed to your "centrism."

I know too well that peoples political opinions change, and I'm stating, quite clearly, that when push comes to shove, centrists generally align rightwards. Which, and I hate to have to point this out, you've just provided an example of.