[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Quantum Bauble

Indeed. I can understand the point, Slim, that a lot of people on the right CLAIM the centre because they're not yet emboldened enough to declare that they are in fact on the right - but that's "internet stuff" / SoMed and forum rhetoric.

In the real world, the vast majority of people lie "around the centre" on the majority of issues and will shift left or right on specific issues usually depending on personal biases and experiences. Free-thinking people at least, not copy-paste-opinion Trumpists etc. or their equivalent to the left, which obviously does exist.

It depends on the people you encounter and the circles you move in. These days the vast majority of people I work with are just-left-of-centre and (believe me) it doesn't mean that there aren't strong opinions and convictions. They're just rational, reasoned, adult opinions with some element of practicality, rather than internet naval-gazing, idealism and point-scoring. Which I will concede - we're ALL guilty of. It's a guilty pleasure. It's not the real world, which can be easy to forget.

What is centrism? What are the political aims and objectives of "the centre?"

Don't rock the boatism? We live in a world where right wing media rules the roost, so this is pretty much the exclusive doctrine we get shoved down our throats on a constant loop, so which boat are we fighting against rocking?

The left won the election recently in France. The centrist, Macron, put a stop to that. He wouldn't have prevented Le Pen taking office. Is Macron a based online nerd?

America has been working to unseat any leftist in South America for over 100 years. They also have caused most of the issues (along with the UK) in the middle east, by replacing any semi-progressive government.

Hitler was invited into power by social democrats.

Lets look at your political positions. When it comes to social issues, you hold views that are closer to the reactionary right - not talking about trans stuff, but I believe I've read you say that you would ban relationships between a 21 and 30yr olds, for example (obviously this was hypothetical as you don't have that power). I have no idea what your views are towards economic policy, because it's not really policy you've shown much interest in discussing, I believe (if I've missed your manifesto on economic redistribution, then I apologise, but I don't think I have). Economically hidden, socially conservative. Folks with those views up and down the country are being radicalised into reform by culture war issues, they are not joining the communist workers party. Because I somewhat know you, I wouldn't think you are a reform voter, but if you don't recognise what I've just laid out, as a real measurement of British Centrism, then I would implore you to think about it again.

Take Cherie - a former LD/Lab/Green voter, fully on board with tommy and Nigels riots

Take kate - supported Corbyns labour, but now a full Robinson acolyte.

Is this the centrism that the vast majority hold? Are Kate and Cherie victims of social media and being permanently online?