[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

The bottom line I guess is that there are a TON of people that are insanely famous in this age of global internet media that individuals not of certain demographics may have missed.

I only know her from Dance Moms really. I also spend too much time online and find her current effort to do a Miley rebranding amazingly entertaining in all it's car crash glory. But, I never watched any of her cartoons or TV shows and it's not like I have followed her music or bought a bow, so I do get why some in the UK who might engage with British traditional media more might not know her.

But I do think that we should accept that a person can be famous and a celeb with us personally not knowing them from mainstream stuff here in the UK. It's a big ole world out there.


I wonder how many have heard of Maddie Ziegler?

…..no…!!!!!!!…are you mad…!!!!!!??????…..thats all just very fake news tbh…if WE don’t know them then they’re not famous, I understand that you’re new here but you’ll learn, grasshopper…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…..no…!!!!!!!…are you mad…!!!!!!??????…..thats all just very fake news tbh…if WE don’t know them then they’re not famous, I understand that you’re new here but you’ll learn, grasshopper…

Originally Posted by Ammi

If WE don’t know them then they’re not famous

The thing is, that's a position that a LOT of people legitimately hold. It's a bit nuts.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

The thing is, that's a position that a LOT of people legitimately hold. It's a bit nuts.

…yeah, that is true…also ‘if I don’t like them, they’re not famous’ is probably also a variation on that…that though has been how it’s been since the beginning in that we’ve had the ‘reality TV celebrities aren’t real celebrities…’…when reality TV has been a growing thing for many years and created much fame for its stars…and now that’s all been joined with YouTube and Tik Tok celebrities because these are all different forms of the same thing that creates ‘celebrity’ aren’t they…I admit that I’m a social media ignorant so I have no idea who are big on those platforms …(…which is why I like to be introduced to them on something like BB…)…and the very nature of the platforms that these celebrities dominate…?…would indicate that they would have huge followings…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah, that is true…also ‘if I don’t like them, they’re not famous’ is probably also a variation on that…that though has been how it’s been since the beginning in that we’ve had the ‘reality TV celebrities aren’t real celebrities…’…when reality TV has been a growing thing for many years and created much fame for its stars…and now that’s all been joined with YouTube and Tik Tok celebrities because these are all different forms of the same thing that creates ‘celebrity’ aren’t they…I admit that I’m a social media ignorant so I have no idea who are big on those platforms …(…which is why I like to be introduced to them on something like BB…)…and the very nature of the platforms that these celebrities dominate…?…would indicate that they would have huge followings…

I think a lot of a certain age are still stuck in a 90s very provincial way of perceiving fame... If they aren't on the front page of the Mirror or in a current UK TV show then here inevitably comes the 'Celeb?? Who even are they?'

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I think a lot of a certain age are still stuck in a 90s very provincial way of perceiving fame... If they aren't on the front page of the Mirror or in a current UK TV show then here inevitably comes the 'Celeb?? Who even are they?'

…this is what I love about BB and why old school fans like me will fight to the death to try to keep some of that essence of blending the old with they new …those faces we do know more with the new ones that are being introduced to us and how those blends themselves would never be aware of each other’s celebrity if it wasn’t for a show like this where they can compare their different paths to celebrity…it’s so much a good point you’ve made of why I love the show so much……

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…this is what I love about BB and why old school fans like me will fight to the death to try to keep some of that essence of blending the old with they new …those faces we do know more with the new ones that are being introduced to us and how those blends themselves would never be aware of each other’s celebrity if it wasn’t for a show like this where they can compare their different paths to celebrity…it’s so much a good point you’ve made of why I love the show so much……

Just to ask, you don't really think that I am new here or to this do you?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Just to ask, you don't really think that I am new here or to this do you?

…no I’ve known you to be a BB seasonal poster for a while now…it’s just more that we still have you in the ‘beginner’s section…’…whereas some advance more quickly…?…you will get a badge on Friday though to say ‘I’m special..’……