[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

Jason: ‘I know you’ve recently lost a pregnancy, Violet, but since you’re staying in tonight (even-though it’s because you’re feeling ill), can you look after my baby?’

Nah. You’re nowhere-near that bad, my guy. I’m very sure of that. Jason was an idiot on top of being lazy, more of a tool than the building-tools he worked wi., and that made it all-the worse. Good legacy-character but so annoying to watch in the noughties, until he grew up a bit.

Thanks Redway.

I'm guessing that Jason eventually grew up mentally?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Thanks Redway.

I'm guessing that Jason eventually grew up mentally?

Only a little.

[Redway]

Irritant: the level of vitriol some people spew about Camilla, a woman they don’t know from a can of carnation-milk.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Irritant: the level of vitriol some people spew about Camilla, a woman they don’t know from a can of carnation-milk.

Camilla had to get out of the public’s view for many years as she was soooo despised.

Probably before you were born .. so you can never know the love millions worldwide felt for Princess Di


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Camilla had to get out of the public’s view for many years as she was soooo despised.

Probably before you were born .. so you can never know the love millions worldwide felt for Princess Di


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Camilla and Princess-Diana are two different people.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Camilla and Princess-Diana are two different people.

I give up


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I give up


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Yay.

Does that mean giving up the intense historical hatred you have of someone you don’t know personally?

Let’s face it. You hate Camilla because she breaks your script, not because she broke a home. She has opinions, which you have trouble with people having in any case unless they converge with yours, which you can’t override. I don’t think it’s a hatred based on true ethics or morale. It does all add up and bounce back this issue of how you view women. You have an inherent dislike towards people who don’t echo you.

You may have women in your life who you claim to respect but I don’t think you’re exactly who you say you are when it comes to the strength of those relationships. Many things don’t add up.

I’ve got my eye on you. Wouldn’t trust you as far as I could throw you. I don’t know why some people still give you the benefit of the doubt. You’re a walking red flag in my books and incredibly misogynistic to boot. You’ve just been enabled for too long because your social cluelessness gives you a veneer of looking innocent and harmless, but beneath that meek veneer, you’re toxic and seemingly incapable of taking more than a smidgen of accountability at a time. And you don’t-half talk a lot of rubbish generally. Absolute rubbish.

You’re not misunderstood. You’re just transparently misogynistic, and a bit of an old creep to boot. And you leak toxicity every corner you turn on this forum.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Yay.

Does that mean giving up the intense historical hatred you have of someone you don’t know personally?

You will never understand


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

Only a little.

Ouch.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You will never understand


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And you’ll never know Camilla.

Me? I’m just in the corner wishing her a belated happy birthday for yesterday.



Oh, adios.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Ouch.

Some people never truly grow up, unfortunately.

[Redway]

The way some coffee-shops close much earlier these days. Half-5 is too early. I wouldn’t want to drive people to the pub too quickly just-because I’ve decided to shut up shop an hour or two before it feels right.

[Redway]

1. Erasure.

2. Toxic perversion draped up as red-bloodedness.

[Redway]

3. People who can’t accept difference in opinions.

4. People who think that having a potentially romantic or sexual interest in women gives them credence to not want to watch women competing against each-other in sports (like boxing). It wouldn’t fly the other way around, because the hypocrisy/self-serving double-standards would be extremely obvious and it’s respected there that people are people and shouldn’t be restricted from their hobbies and passions just in-case you want to kiss or bang one in your dreams. It’s a very condescending, infantilising flavour of misogynistic that comes from a thinly-veiled nice-guy veneer who’s “speaking out of concern.” Absolutely vile. You’ve got to leave the urge to inherently sexualise people sometimes to value their humanity and see them as they truly are, unbounded by stereotype and gendered expectations. People are fluid, and objectification reduces that acknowledgment. More to this, though, I hate when the premise of “concern” is used to objectify, judge or used to cloak and pattern feelings of control or superiority. That’s not okay. And it’s not innocent. It’s an attitude that actively does harm to the dignity of other people. Feigned protectiveness is more about possessiveness and ego than the person themselves, and it’s inherently deeply, deeply manipulative.

“But I’m still a nice guy, and that should be obvious.” Anyone can claim to be any fruit but there’s still a difference between an apple and a banana. So it jars when people say that to defend their misogyny.

If someone only sees value in women who mirror their experiences or meet their aesthetic standard, they don’t truly see women; they see tools for emotional or visual gratification. And it’s a manipulation-pattern that too many allow themselves to be gaslit into tolerating it or downplaying its harmfulness. And gaslighting is inherently abusive. I really don’t envy women in relationships with guys like that. It can sometimes turn coercive. It’s intentionally engaging with the most commodified portrayals of women, all-while ridiculing actual women in positions of authority, voice or athleticism. It’s semi-predatory. It’s narcissistic consumption that Dr Ramani would have a field-day with.

[Redway]

People needing affirmation from the lowest-hanging fantasy-tree.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

1. Erasure.

2. Toxic perversion draped up as red-bloodedness.

Are you talking about the 80's Music group?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Are you talking about the 80's Music group?

I’m not, buddy. I’m talking about the general practice.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

I’m not, buddy. I’m talking about the general practice.

Fair enough.

[Redway]

People who smoke near babies.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

People who smoke near babies.

100% agree.

[Redway]

Pubs that are overly dog-friendly.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Redway

Pubs that are overly dog-friendly.

Agree and the owners who happily have their dog jumping up on pub seats and laugh it off

I was in a pub the other day which makes a very big thing of being dog friendly and it absolutely stank

[Redway]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Agree and the owners who happily have their dog jumping up on pub seats and laugh it off

I was in a pub the other day which makes a very big thing of being dog friendly and it absolutely stank

I thought I was going to get overriding pro-dog-sentiment from you so it’s glad to see you actually on the same page with me on this. I’m really not a dog-person in-general but a lot of even those more partial would draw the line at dogs knocking people into their pint-glasses and rolling all-in the spilt Coors like it’s liquid shower-manna infused with chamomile.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Redway

I thought I was going to get overriding pro-dog-sentiment from you so it’s glad to see you actually on the same page with me on this. I’m really not a dog-person in-general but a lot of even those more partial would draw the line at dogs knocking people into their pint-glasses and rolling all-in the spilt Coors like it’s liquid shower-manna infused with chamomile.

Haha no I'm more of a cat man but still generally quite like dogs - I just object to them being forced on everyone or the assumption that some owners have that we must enjoy their dog slobbering all over us

[Redway]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Haha no I'm more of a cat man but still generally quite like dogs - I just object to them being forced on everyone or the assumption that some owners have that we must enjoy their dog slobbering all over us

I’m with you 100%. The assumption that everyone’s going to be comfortable with dogs over-stepping basic human boundaries and slobbering all over them is pretty entitled, likewise for the inherent suspicion that anyone who doesn’t like dogs must be an enemy of mankind or at-best traumatised from a bad childhood-encounter with dogs. Not everyone likes dogs and that’s that. It’s not by force to love furry, noisy canines.