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Old 10-09-2025, 10:12 PM #1
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Just went back to the killing of democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband.

I also went back to the thread on here and a lot of members who have been so vocal in this thread are nowhere to be found there.
I know this is only internet clout to you, but I feel really hurt when I see political violence in my own country. I thought of her and her family for days and yes, it did not receive a whole lot of coverage. Our media—all of it—has very different priorities than the average American and its interests. These events still take me back to 9/11 every single time and how we seem to have gotten so far away from where we were before our worldview was forcibly changed overnight. Every political interest group came out of the woodwork to take advantage of our common interest and still seem intent on breaking us apart.

I think when we don't see average Americans coming out in major support for the country in what used to be a joyful way and mutual way, I think a lot of that has been because we've become so accustomed to seeing our emotional reactions being manipulated and abused for some other interest.
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I know this is only internet clout to you, but I feel really hurt when I see political violence in my own country. I thought of her and her family for days and yes, it did not receive a whole lot of coverage. Our media—all of it—has very different priorities than the average American and its interests. These events still take me back to 9/11 every single time and how we seem to have gotten so far away from where we were before our worldview was forcibly changed overnight. Every political interest group came out of the woodwork to take advantage of our common interest and still seem intent on breaking us apart.

I think when we don't see average Americans coming out in major support for the country in what used to be a joyful way and mutual way, I think a lot of that has been because we've become so accustomed to seeing our emotional reactions being manipulated and abused for some other interest.

Not internet clout at all. Just Correcting the same people who have jumped right in with the left is evil crap.
There’s lunatics on both the right side and left side.

But now’s not the time for making this about who is to blame.

A child has lost its father today.
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Not internet clout at all. Just Correcting the same people who have jumped right in with the left is evil crap.
There’s lunatics on both the right side and left side.

But now’s not the time for making this about who is to blame.

A child has lost its father today.
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Not internet clout at all. Just Correcting the same people who have jumped right in with the left is evil crap.
There’s lunatics on both the right side and left side.

But now’s not the time for making this about who is to blame.

A child has lost its father today.
I agree with you in general, Glenn. I do think that's it's normal for people to have perfectly natural reactions to things in their own unique way. The same way a Muslim community might feel like they're under siege every time there's a terror attack, they know people are going to come out looking to blame them. And yes, political violence obviously has a different effect to people on both sides. For all we know though, the dude was right-leaning (wouldn't matter, Charlie Kirk is dead). If it were an LGBT killing, I wouldn't be ****ing bothered at all if certain people were upset that God forbid someone would shoot someone who shares their status. I would find that very difficult not take it personally, also.

Again, if we're part of a group that is a victim of violence, it's hard not to have a personal reaction. This is fine! Hopefully it eventually sinks in to others that this could happen to them. There's no worldview, public policy or perfect security that keeps one 100% safe. Trump's security team found out about a Glock the other day that got through security. (Pretty sure he has better security than most of us) If enough people are intent to kill someone, they will continue to try to find a way. Hopefully it makes people think.
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