[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

More to the point, I know people and have had very intimate family-friend associations with people whose dads came to the U.K. in the ’60s/’70s post-war off the back of the most relentless tribalism and I’ve got nothing but respect. Nothing but respect for people who came to the U.K. with sincerity and in the search of nothing but a better life for them and the families they went on to start, amidst the racism of the time.

The news rarely, if ever, talks about people like that. You’re not going to get the nuance of the full situation re. people coming to this country by boat if all your cue hinges on is the Daily Fail. But there’s no reason to duck with fear about the prospect of boating in itself. What swathes of people have turned it into in more recent times is another thing, but that’s not everyone. That’s not everyone’s intentions or experiences.

I know we all come from different walks of life, with different experiences and associations to boot, but there’s always a certain ignorance that seeps out in conversations like this, and all that does is taint the validity of what valid points people might otherwise be making. Especially when it’s coming from an overwhelmingly monolithic, purely white British perspective that doesn’t account for nuance but just capitulates what’s latest on the news. That doesn’t account for people who (just as an example) fled Nigeria after the Biafran war in a country that could threaten to shoot people as they entered the plane just out of anti-Igbo sentiment. For people like that, taking that boat-trip or making it firmly into that airplane just in the nick of time saved their lives. Yeah? Igbo civilians facing military checkpoints, discrimination and targeted attacks (as-if killing 3 million in that war wasn’t bloody enough, airports being a potential place of danger even for trying to escape the federal nation that savaged many just for their ethnic belonging. So what if someone like that wants to settle in Toxteth, Liverpool in full ’70s/’80s aesthetic, encourage Jheri-curls and start a family that includes four wonderful children, one a pharmacy-technician and a journalist and another an aspiring gamer? Is that the sort of thing the news covers? The follow-up in the lives of people who’ve started or moved families over and their enriching to the overall cultural fabric of society? Does the average pure Brit even care about follow-up or know that boating’s not a recent, exploitative phenomenon?

So yes. There is a certain level of ignorance that seeps out in threads like this, with not enough relevant, direct cultural experiences of a less sinister kind of off-the-paper migration, and that’s not something that necessarily increases with age. It comes with background, associations and cultural mingling, if not membership, and that deserves respect as much as ‘I’m old enough to recount a trillion examples of dubious boat-migration from a biased, distinctly white-British, perspective in any case.’ No shade, no titty, but the other kind of experience isn’t something to mock or demean.

Interesting info below …

Oddly , I haven’t seen one single female or child in the footage we see most days !!


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People arriving by small boat are coming from a variety of countries, with recent data showing that the top nationalities include Afghanistan, Eritrea, Iran, Syria, and Sudan. The specific nationalities can change over time due to various factors like policy changes and events in their home countries.

Top nationalities (year ending June 2025): Afghans, Eritreans, Sudanese, and Syrians are among the most common nationalities arriving in small For instance, some data from 2018-2021 indicated that around 90% of people crossing were male .


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Interesting info below …

Oddly , I haven’t seen one single female or child in the footage we see most days !!


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Ai view

People arriving by small boat are coming from a variety of countries, with recent data showing that the top nationalities include Afghanistan, Eritrea, Iran, Syria, and Sudan. The specific nationalities can change over time due to various factors like policy changes and events in their home countries.

Top nationalities (year ending June 2025): Afghans, Eritreans, Sudanese, and Syrians are among the most common nationalities arriving in small For instance, some data from 2018-2021 indicated that around 90% of people crossing were male .


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What’s that got to do with my point?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

What’s that got to do with my point?

Nowt


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Nowt


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So why make the comment?