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Originally Posted by Abra

Just to clarify. I am deeply against anti-semitism. I draw a clear distinction between Israel and Jewish people in general. My criticism of the genocidal state of Israel has nothing to do with Jewish people, of whom I have many friends and loved ones. I accept that anti-semitism is present as it always has been, but equally on the other side there are people who support the fact that Israel have been slaughtering thousands upon thousands of Muslim babies and that has drawn no condemnation from the right.

I am very aware of propaganda in every war and I do not take the statements of Hamas as fact and I think it is ridiculous to do so. There have been a lot of lies told in this whole thing, many which the left has gobbled up because it suits their natural antisemitism. It is deeper than this war.. Look at how the Labour party has been repeatedly found guilty of it by investigation and fined for it. The left has a long standing problem with Jews and always has had. It didn't start with Gaza, and it has coloured everything regarding the war for them. Their alliance with radical Islam is based pretty much on it, because it's a shared view.

Originally Posted by Abra

If you feel that people are wishing for a "Jewish genocide", then I assume you must condemn Israel's genocide in Gaza? Or is it okay to commit a genocide against one group of people but not another?

The current Gaza situation did not start with the Israeli action.

This particular action started with the slaughtering of 378 festival goers, the injuring of so many more, and the taking of 44 hostages (only of which 24 were rescued/ released after a horrifying captivity.. The rest died).

A UN fact finding mission confirms the use of violent rape and SA during that same attack, including gang rape. I won't go into more graphic details here regarding what went on during that day... It honestly makes horrific reading. It was pure barbarism.

You don't get to do that and then cry 'genocide' when your victim hits back. Of course there was going to be a retaliation and the use of human civilian shields means that Hamas was ready for that and ready to see it's own people die.

If another State attacked the UK and did this to us openly I would expect the U.K. to go to war over it.. Would you not?