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BB_Eye · 16-12-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I'm not making excuses for him!! I hate cheats, I'm just saying that he's not finished as he's a golfer and he can still play golf!

Oh don't get me wrong. He's great at what he does (even though golf is more of an insomnia cure for me) and nobody would be crazy enough to stop him from playing.

Niamh. · 16-12-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Thas the answer I give to anyone trying to tear down some superstar.
Can you not love them because of who they are, and love them only for the entertainment side of them. BEcause, I dont know about you, but my only role models, are people that I know. Superstars, have to maintain an image, so most of them claim, and show a squeeky clean image. But its just wrong to hold them to that standard.
I couldnt care less about Tiger Woods personal life and his marital issues. I only care about his golf skills.

I feel the same when people criticize Jenson Button, or any other athlete, for anything outside of their athletic accomplishements.

Well, yeah exactely, If people don't like him fine but whether he cheats on his wife or not, he can still play Golf which is what he's famous for and which is where his fortune came from.

Niamh. · 16-12-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Oh don't get me wrong. He's great at what he does (even though golf is more of an insomnia cure for me) and nobody would be crazy enough to stop him from playing.

lol, I feckin' hate Golf too but I don't see why him cheating on his wife would have any bearing on his career as a golfer, I mean if you're neighbour cheats on his wife his boss isn't going to fire him, is he?? (unless he works for his wife lol!!)

Wildcat! · 16-12-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

lol, I feckin' hate Golf too but I don't see why him cheating on his wife would have any bearing on his career as a golfer, I mean if you're neighbour cheats on his wife his boss isn't going to fire him, is he?? (unless he works for his wife lol!!)

Damn! I couldnt put it, any better way!

Crimson Dynamo · 16-12-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

lol, I feckin' hate Golf too but I don't see why him cheating on his wife would have any bearing on his career as a golfer, I mean if you're neighbour cheats on his wife his boss isn't going to fire him, is he?? (unless he works for his wife lol!!)

your example is invalid

Tigers "career" is not just the game of golf as he is pro tour golfer and his image and character are integral to his success package. The game of golf has incredibly high standards in terms of "playing the game" - there is a lot of honour involved etc

To be caught cheating a tiny bit (ie fractionally touching the sand with your club in a bunker and not mentioning it) can utterly ruin a career full stop, and has.

Now Tiger has not cheated in golf but he has done the bext worse thing and that is your family (in golf terms).

he will never recover. dont forget tiger is a grumpy unhappy player but people forgave him because he was untouchable. this has now ended and he will have to now deal with the wrath.

its over for Tiger.

Niamh. · 16-12-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

your example is invalid

Tigers "career" is not just the game of golf as he is pro tour golfer and his image and character are integral to his success package. The game of golf has incredibly high standards in terms of "playing the game" - there is a lot of honour involved etc

To be caught cheating a tiny bit (ie fractionally touching the sand with your club in a bunker and not mentioning it) can utterly ruin a career full stop, and has.

Now Tiger has not cheated in golf but he has done the bext worse thing and that is your family (in golf terms).

he will never recover. dont forget tiger is a grumpy unhappy player but people forgave him because he was untouchable. this has now ended and he will have to now deal with the wrath.

its over for Tiger.

My argument is not invalid just because you say so cheeky!!

So you think the No.1 ranked golfer in the world, no longer has a career playing Golf because of his personal life? I think not.

Tom · 16-12-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Clearly his wife wouldn't agree with that! She should get rid! One mistake is bad enough - but he has clearly been taking the piss! She is lovely looking - and can do much better!

I get what you're saying, but their relationship is between the two of them. Not the media, not 'outraged' members of the public.

People ought to just get their noses out of other peoples business.

Crimson Dynamo · 16-12-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

My argument is not invalid just because you say so cheeky!!

So you think the No.1 ranked golfer in the world, no longer has a career playing Golf because of his personal life? I think not.

no one said "no longer has a career playing Golf" apart from you?

Crimson Dynamo · 16-12-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

I get what you're saying, but their relationship is between the two of them. Not the media, not 'outraged' members of the public.

People ought to just get their noses out of other peoples business.

yes these celebrities who earn money from people being interested in their lives and what they do should be able to pick and chose when we are interested in them

Tom · 16-12-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes these celebrities who earn money from people being interested in their lives and what they do should be able to pick and chose when we are interested in them

Considering he doesn't sell his soul to the tabloids and earns money through golfing and sponsorships ...

Crimson Dynamo · 16-12-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

Considering he doesn't sell his soul to the tabloids and earns money through golfing and sponsorships ...

he sells nowt. His management company maximise every dollar they can via the media. tabloids are small fare and deal with celebs who are not in control of their media.

Niamh. · 16-12-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

your example is invalid

Tigers "career" is not just the game of golf as he is pro tour golfer and his image and character are integral to his success package. The game of golf has incredibly high standards in terms of "playing the game" - there is a lot of honour involved etc

To be caught cheating a tiny bit (ie fractionally touching the sand with your club in a bunker and not mentioning it) can utterly ruin a career full stop, and has.

Now Tiger has not cheated in golf but he has done the bext worse thing and that is your family (in golf terms).

he will never recover. dont forget tiger is a grumpy unhappy player but people forgave him because he was untouchable. this has now ended and he will have to now deal with the wrath.

its over for Tiger.

I presumed that this is what you meant when you made this post - that his career was over?

Crimson Dynamo · 16-12-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I presumed that this is what you meant when you made this post - that his career was over?

no, sorry I mean his untouchable career to date, his public persona etc

Niamh. · 16-12-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no, sorry I mean his untouchable career to date, his public persona etc

well, no doubt, it'll turn people off for a while so I suppose it will affect his advertising deals alright but I'm sure if he lies low for a while and continues to play good golf it will blow over.

I don't think he really needs the money anyhow!!

Crimson Dynamo · 16-12-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

well, no doubt, it'll turn people off for a while so I suppose it will affect his advertising deals alright but I'm sure if he lies low for a while and continues to play good golf it will blow over.

I don't think he really needs the money anyhow!!

blow over?

aint that the truth

Niamh. · 16-12-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

blow over?

aint that the truth

Yes, Blow Over!!!

I still don't see why he should lose his career over something he did in his personal life!!

Crimson Dynamo · 16-12-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Yes, Blow Over!!!

I still don't see why he should lose his career over something he did in his personal life!!

Hang on, have YOU ever met Tiger? I know he plays a lot of golf in Ireland...

Niamh. · 16-12-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Hang on, have YOU ever met Tiger? I know he plays a lot of golf in Ireland...

I'm married and I -unlike Tiger- honour my marriage vows!!

Crimson Dynamo · 16-12-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I'm married and I -unlike Tiger- honour my marriage vows!!

yep

ok

Wildcat! · 16-12-2009, 03:10 PM

2 words, KOBE BRYANT! If you dont know who he is, which is likely, look them up!

Tom · 16-12-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he sells nowt. His management company maximise every dollar they can via the media. tabloids are small fare and deal with celebs who are not in control of their media.

you're contradicting your original post with this