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Old 27-12-2009, 07:56 PM #1
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The fact that he tried is true - I believe we call it attempted murder! There will always be those that admire him for that alone.
That's true but admiration and being enthused to commit violent acts are different things, killing him would only make sure that there is more to take his place. A failed attack will not result in revenge attacks from other terrorists.

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How am I supposed to know how - if I have never tried to get into this country undected. But you can't deny the fact that many get in and out of our country despite security - terrorists included!
How many are convicted terrorists though? It would be hard to even breathe internationally for someone with that on his record nevermind sneaking into countries.

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And as Nigeria is quite a lawless country anyway - really don't think they are going to be too bothered about offending our country!
Like usual you've missed the point i was trying to make, If he did attack again we could take away treaties and much needed relief from Nigeria for not preventing him from doing so. If he managed to kill the punishment would only be more severe for Nigeria. Also there could be potential sanctions from other countries, if citizens of other countries were injured or killed.
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That's true but admiration and being enthused to commit violent acts are different things, killing him would only make sure that there is more to take his place. A failed attack will not result in revenge attacks from other terrorists.



How many are convicted terrorists though? It would be hard to even breathe internationally for someone with that on his record nevermind sneaking into countries.



Like usual you've missed the point i was trying to make, If he did attack again we could take away treaties and much needed relief from Nigeria for not preventing him from doing so. If he managed to kill the punishment would only be more severe for Nigeria. Also there could be potential sanctions from other countries, if citizens of other countries were injured or killed.
I didn't miss the point at all. I do see what you are saying but try rationalising that to the families of those 'he manages to kill'. You put that as if it is a minor, rather insignifant inconvenience. If he 'manages to kill' again - then, in my book, the responsibility lies on us for giving him that chance in the first place. The sanctions etc you mention are all well and good - but how realistic are they.

There are many countries that we don't have extradition treaties with who will not return citizens of their country to us to face charges for murder or other such crimes. Do they care about potential sanctions? They often have limited effect!
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I didn't miss the point at all. I do see what you are saying but try rationalising that to the families of those 'he manages to kill'. You put that as if it is a minor, rather insignifant inconvenience. If he 'manages to kill' again - then, in my book, the responsibility lies on us for giving him that chance in the first place. The sanctions etc you mention are all well and good - but how realistic are they.

There are many countries that we don't have extradition treaties with who will not return citizens of their country to us to face charges for murder or other such crimes. Do they care about potential sanctions? They often have limited effect!
But the point is killing him will only insure MORE death. Sanctions can be heavy, especially to a struggling country like Nigeria.

Either throw him away in prison for life or deport him, the Death Penalty will only lead to a lot more innocent blood being spilt.

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But the point is killing him will only insure MORE death. Sanctions can be heavy, especially to a struggling country like Nigeria.

Either throw him away in prison for life or deport him, the Death Penalty will only lead to a lot more innocent blood being spilt.
We will just have to agree to disagree on this one I'm afraid!
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All convicted terrorists should be executed.......Keeping them in jail for decdaes costs a lot of money. Money that would be better spent on giving drugs to the sick that have been denied them due to cost.....

It seems criminals have a blank cheque spent on them because of some misguided belief that an eye for an eye makes one the same as them......Utter contemptable rubbish......

What makes us the same as them is squandering money on them and literally executing the sick in order to afford such imoral sqandering on scum bag killers.....
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