[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Tom

50% of people carry the fat gene, why isn't half of the country obese? Go figure.

I said "Generally" which means either people figure out themselves or a doctor tells them before, or it's too late. And a lot of people are overweight you know.

I'm past all of this really as you could have read, which means this issue is close to me so I'd better stay out of it lmao

[Tom]

Originally Posted by andyman

Look into it, many studies have been done over 40 years.
Some do eat too much of the wrong food while being inactive, but its not the same for all.. Same with some slim people that can't gain weight while other could easy put weight on if they wanted..
Go seek the facts because sometimes that thought in your head is not always right..

I don't think people can't just not lose weight, I think thats another psychological issue (ie being too lazy or no will power but not realising it) and probably the fault of parents for over feeding them and not making them do exercise. If you're fat as a kid then the chances are its your parents fault.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

I said "Generally" which means either people figure out themselves or a doctor tells them before, or it's too late. And a lot of people are overweight you know.

I'm past all of this really as you could have read, which means this issue is close to me so I'd better stay out of it lmao

40% of adults in the UK are overweight with half of them being obese. I don't think being overweight is that big a problem, I think its when you hit obesity that its a problem. If some people can avoid being overweight/obese with the fat gene then I don't think there is any excuse for most other people.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by setanta

Well you can always really judge it from your parents and their siblings. What weight are they? It's usually a good indication as to how you'll fare.

When my Dad was my age he was 10 stone, he is now 14 stone. So he is already 2 stone ahead of me. My Mum was quite thin for her age but now she is about 64kg (something like 9.5-10 stone right now).
My sister is 20 years old and she is about 7.5 stone, so quite light too.

I wanted to go my Dads way, but looks like im coming more from my Mums side.

However, heightwise im following my Dad, he is quite short and so am I... he's probably 5'9, Im about 5'6.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Tom

40% of adults in the UK are overweight with half of them being obese. I don't think being overweight is that big a problem, I think its when you hit obesity that its a problem. If some people can avoid being overweight/obese with the fat gene then I don't think there is any excuse for most other people.

Of course there is an excuse Tom. I'm not going to reveal all my personal issues there who put me in that situation back in the day but there are excuses such as depression, the loss of someone, being very very down, body image issues etc... Some people will fall into drugs, some into alcoholism, etc... and some into food. I've got the fat gene, I didn't control it therefore couldn't avoid being obese, does that make it up for the issues I had ? Of course not. I didn't get fat because I wanted to, I got fat because I got addicted and it made me feel good (4 years) then you realize it does not anymore, the reverse is happening.

I'm not saying all obese people have psychological issues because some of them are lazy and you're right but obesity is a disease and has been declared one of the biggest disease of the decade along with cancer and AIDS.

[*mazedsalv**]

And to Tom's comments.

A large % of people are fat because it runs in the family. I mean if a 20 stone woman gives birth to you, its about 70% likely or so, that you will be quite big for a small age and then be obese when your older.

However, some people do get themselves fat.
I dont like how they do that and then moan.

BUT, I like people who admit that they like being fat and dont have a problem with it. Its their life and if their happy the way they weigh, fair enough.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Of course there is an excuse Tom. I'm not going to reveal all my personal issues there who put me in that situation back in the day but there are excuses such as depression, the loss of someone, being very very down, body image issues etc... Some people will fall into drugs, some into alcoholism, etc... and some into food. I've got the fat gene, I didn't control it therefore couldn't avoid being obese, does that make it up for the issues I had ? Of course not. I didn't get fat because I wanted to, I got fat because I got addicted and it made me feel good (4 years) then you realize it does not anymore, the reverse is happening.

I'm not saying all obese people have psychological issues because some of them are lazy and you're right but obesity is a disease and has been declared one of the biggest disease of the decade along with cancer and AIDS.

If you don't want to be fat you'll do something about it no matter how addicted you are.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Tom

If you don't want to be fat you'll do something about it no matter how addicted you are.

That's when you realize you are fat. You are that happy to eat that you don't even realize what is going on but the day people will mock you, you realize something is wrong so you eat more to forget about it. But one day, you somehow realize enough is enough and it's time to put it to an end. Then begins the diet.

What I'm trying to tell you is that, you don't just decide not to be fat anylonger, it doesn't work like that, you're stuck in the middle of something you don't control anymore. I'm only about people who have food addiction related to personal issues, not people who just eat for the sake of eating.
See, I still played rugby while I was obese but it didn't help much.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

That's when you realize you are fat. You are that happy to eat that you don't even realize what is going on but the day people will mock you, you realize something is wrong so you eat more to forget about it. But one day, you somehow realize enough is enough and it's time to put it to an end. Then begins the diet.

What I'm trying to tell you is that, you don't just decide not to be fat anylonger, it doesn't work like that, you're stuck in the middle of something you don't control anymore. I'm only about people who have food addiction related to personal issues, not people who just eat for the sake of eating.
See, I still played rugby while I was obese but it didn't help much.

But if you don't realise that you're fat, when you do realise it and thats when you start the diet, then thats you doing something about it because you no longer want to be fat. You can decide, you can just put a stop to it and go on a diet. It might not be that simple for some people I understand but if you want it that badly you will do it.

[andyman]

Originally Posted by Tom

I don't think people can't just not lose weight, I think thats another psychological issue (ie being too lazy or no will power but not realising it) and probably the fault of parents for over feeding them and not making them do exercise. If you're fat as a kid then the chances are its your parents fault.

Not always psychological for some but it can play a part. We have known this for some time with the fat animal study and how fat cells work with the brain, fat cells are not the dumb cells we once thought.. Plus in Germany a study was done with one young man that had to eat, always wanted food, has links with the animal study..

The science behind all this is what drug companies are pumping millions into to find that wonder pill, and it helps us understand more about the human body and the brain..

[James]

Our genes play a big part in deciding our weight. You see in ancient times our ancestors had to scavenge for any food they could get. Having a strong appetite is probably something that evolved because it was useful for our survival in those days.

Forward to modern times, and we live in a world (at least in the West anyway) where food is plentiful. However we still have genes which tell us to eat at every opportunity. Hence some people eat too much.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by andyman

Look into it, many studies have been done over 40 years.
Some do eat too much of the wrong food while being inactive, but its not the same for all.. Same with some slim people that can't gain weight while other could easy put weight on if they wanted..
Go seek the facts because sometimes that thought in your head is not always right..

I'm hungeeee

No wonder you're hungry with those pics of food staring up at you! That's just teasing yourself.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by James

Our genes play a big part in deciding our weight. You see in ancient times our ancestors had to scavenge for any food they could get. Having a strong appetite is probably something that evolved because it was useful for our survival in those days.

Forward to modern times, and we live in a world (at least in the West anyway) where food is plentiful. However we still have genes which tell us to eat at every opportunity. Hence some people eat too much.

I totally agree. And then we have access to mass produced, low grade food products that are extremely high in saturated fat which, according to what my cousin once told me, the body never realises when it's had enough of and so we continue to gorge. I can't relate to you what she said verbatim, but it was something along those lines. The brain doesn't know when it's full of that kind of fat.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Tom

But if you don't realise that you're fat, when you do realise it and thats when you start the diet, then thats you doing something about it because you no longer want to be fat. You can decide, you can just put a stop to it and go on a diet. It might not be that simple for some people I understand but if you want it that badly you will do it.

You can put a stop at it when it's already way too late and when you're physically damaged by what's going on around. I remember how it happened for me, it was very emotional and my Dad told me "Son, if you want people to change the way they see you, give them something to be jealous about". It's the best advice I've ever been given and that's what made me go for a diet and become who I am today.
Unfortunately, some people don't ever get that kind of advice or "mental shock" to put an end to it. You just don't wake up and say "Oh wait, let's get a diet". You have to want it, otherwise you'll never get it.
You're right on one point, if you want it badly, you'll do it but you have to want it and to keep it up. That's the hardest part.

[elliebrew]

Tom i'm 24 years old and am prob healthier and more active than you but I'm porgy so don't you dare say it's coz were lazy. You are just lucky that ure natural body shape is slim so don't dare look down your nose at me

[andyman]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Tom i'm 24 years old and am prob healthier and more active than you but I'm porgy so don't you dare say it's coz were lazy. You are just lucky that ure natural body shape is slim so don't dare look down your nose at me

Tom spends all his money on drugs though.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Tom i'm 24 years old and am prob healthier and more active than you but I'm porgy so don't you dare say it's coz were lazy. You are just lucky that ure natural body shape is slim so don't dare look down your nose at me

Just be yourself elliebrew

[Tom]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Tom i'm 24 years old and am prob healthier and more active than you but I'm porgy so don't you dare say it's coz were lazy. You are just lucky that ure natural body shape is slim so don't dare look down your nose at me

If you were as active as I am then you probably wouldn't be 'porgy' (whatever that means I'm just assuming you mean chubby or fat although from pics you've posted before IIRC you're nothing of the sort anyway). And I'm not looking down my nose. I also think its possible to be fat and healthy, just not obese and healthy ...

Originally Posted by andyman

Tom spends all his money on drugs though.

Yes this is true, you name it I'm on it ...

[ButterflyGirl]

Could say the same about skinny people ,girls starving themselves to be like Cheryl Cole etc and it isn't healthy to be like that and doesn't always look attractive...

[andyman]

Half Ton Dad

1:20am - 2:20am, More 4.


Kenneth Brumley, 40, weighed 73 stone when he prepared for a do-or-die operation.
This is the story of a father, his family and his country, America, with 15 million morbidly obese people.

[spitfire]

I do have a wee chuckle when i see fat people stuffing McDonalds down their gobs.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by spitfire

I do have a wee chuckle when i see fat people stuffing McDonalds down their gobs.

and they order a DIET coke

[30stone]

Originally Posted by Tom

and they order a DIET coke

LOL that is so comedy when i done work experience in pizza hut, "yeah ill have an extra large pepperoni with extra cheese, some garlic bread with cheese and a diet coke.. gotta stay healthy..

what? LOL

[30stone]

Originally Posted by ButterflyGirl

Could say the same about skinny people ,girls starving themselves to be like Cheryl Cole etc and it isn't healthy to be like that and doesn't always look attractive...

Hate people constantly brining that into debates like this, always is..


Anyway, id like to spend the day being fat, just to see what its like see what its like.

I eat healthy and exercise 5 - 6 times a week.. and ive never had any problem with my weight (getting fat) just realised i always have a problem with my weight (losing it), ate everything over christmas just everything was full for 4 straight days and i dropped 4 lbs LOL

[spitfire]

Originally Posted by spitfire

I do have a wee chuckle when i see fat people stuffing McDonalds down their gobs.

Having said that,i do feel sorry for their kids in pushchairs,who are also shoving Burger and chips down their throats.