[Enid]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Legal idiot!

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[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Enid

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An idiot fullstop - for coming onto a bb forum looking for info on drugs! Guy is a twat!

[Beso]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

An idiot fullstop - for coming onto a bb forum looking for info on drugs! Guy is a twat!

It is in general chat you big fat ****. It also generated 3 pages of conversation. so please, shut up eh !

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by beso

It is in general chat you big fat ****. It also generated 3 pages of conversation. so please, shut up eh !

big fat **** is not very nice nor is it in any way accurate

[Beso]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

big fat **** is not very nice nor is it in any way accurate

Once you pull everyone up for derogatory comments I'll start taking notice, until then, I shall just gaze at those lovely puppies.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by beso

It is in general chat you big fat ****. It also generated 3 pages of conversation. so please, shut up eh !

How many pages it generates is hardly the point! Lots of idiotic threads generate a lot of posts - many being criticism! It is the content that is of more relevance!

[Stu]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

How many pages it generates is hardly the point! Lots of idiotic threads generate a lot of posts - many being criticism! It is the content that is of more relevance!

If you don't like it, why don't you stay out of it instead of causing trouble and calling the guy an idiot and a twat because he chooses to do certain drugs?

Your not exactly flying the flag very well for the sobreity brigade. I'm not an advocate of Mephedrone but he can drink the contents of a Lynx can and smoke a fag through his ass for all I care as long as it's not compromising my own health and safety.

Originally Posted by setanta

Stock up while you can so. The one close to me stays open till 4 in the morning on the weekends. Mental.

I don't do the stuff. Anymore.

Popping up all over the gaf they are. We have like eight in the city now. I'm wondering when the next one will go up in flames due to angry dealers.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

I don't do the stuff. Anymore.

Popping up all over the gaf they are. We have like eight in the city now. I'm wondering when the next one will go up in flames due to angry dealers.

I tried some of it a year or two ago. Not much though. The hash stuff did nothing for me really.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

If you don't like it, why don't you stay out of it instead of causing trouble and calling the guy an idiot and a twat because he chooses to do certain drugs?

Your not exactly flying the flag very well for the sobreity brigade. I'm not an advocate of Mephedrone but he can drink the contents of a Lynx can and smoke a fag through his ass for all I care as long as it's not compromising my own health and safety.


I don't do the stuff. Anymore.

Popping up all over the gaf they are. We have like eight in the city now. I'm wondering when the next one will go up in flames due to angry dealers.

If you want to interpret me expressing my opinion as trouble-making, go ahead - rather hypocritical of you I think! I think the guy is an idiot for coming onto a predominantly teen forum to allegedly discuss taking drugs for highs and where to get hold of them - especially bearing in mind he claims he is 39. His intentions seem dubious to say the least.

I don't give a damn what he does - it is where he does it that is obviously the issue! The point you seem to me missing that is if such a discussion should influence any of the younger members to indulge in something suggested on this forum - he is compromising their health and safety! In my eyes, and many more I suspect, that makes him a complete twat!

[Stu]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

If you want to interpret me expressing my opinion as trouble-making, go ahead - rather hypocritical of you I think! I think the guy is an idiot for coming onto a predominantly teen forum to allegedly discuss taking drugs for highs and where to get hold of them - especially bearing in mind he claims he is 39. His intentions seem dubious to say the least.

I don't give a damn what he does - it is where he does it that is obviously the issue! The point you seem to me missing that is if such a discussion should influence any of the younger members to indulge in something suggested on this forum - he is compromising their health and safety! In my eyes, any many more I suspect, that makes him a complete twat!

Your not giving the other members a lot of credit here. Teenagers know that drugs exist around them. A few rambling posts from a dyslexic party boy is not going to suddenly create a burning desire in the minds of some of the younger members to go out and inject Opium into their balls.

Would you have had the same reaction if I started a thread to discuss the best wines or cigarette brands? No. Because your perception is clouded by the evil deeeeeerugz.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

If you want to interpret me expressing my opinion as trouble-making, go ahead - rather hypocritical of you I think! I think the guy is an idiot for coming onto a predominantly teen forum to allegedly discuss taking drugs for highs and where to get hold of them - especially bearing in mind he claims he is 39. His intentions seem dubious to say the least.

I don't give a damn what he does - it is where he does it that is obviously the issue! The point you seem to me missing that is if such a discussion should influence any of the younger members to indulge in something suggested on this forum - he is compromising their health and safety! In my eyes, and many more I suspect, that makes him a complete twat!

Your opinion seems reasonable as long as you think the same about people discussing alcohol on here.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

An idiot fullstop - for coming onto a bb forum looking for info on drugs! Guy is a twat!

They are legal so he really isn't doing anything wrong

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

They are legal so he really isn't doing anything wrong

Does that mean you advocate drinking bleach, its legal to drink that too. Or sniff glue, after all glue is obtained legally by buying from a shop.

Simply because a substance has not been declared illegal, doesnt mean its safe to snort, sniff, inject, anally absorb or take into the body any other way.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Does that mean you advocate drinking bleach, thats legal to drink.

there's a difference, drink causes more problems than legal highs

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

there's a difference, drink causes more problems than legal highs

Yes and we are all well aware of the dangers of consuming excess alcohol and of long term excessive alcohol consumption. Are people aware of the dangers of consuming excess amounts of substances dubbed legal highs or even the effects of long term usage on the body?

Also a minor problem can be an interaction within the body between any prescribed medication, and the "legal high".

I would recommend the OP educate himself to the benefits and the side effects of chemicals such as mephodrone. Also check on the current legal status as several chemicals were criminalised as Class B others were rated as Class C, last year.

[1000Usernames]

There is nothing legal that can compare to weed. The closest I found was that Smoke stuff but it wasn't even that good. Just stick with getting some weed, it won't be hard to find.

Good Luck.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Yes and we are all well aware of the dangers of consuming excess alcohol and of long term excessive alcohol consumption. Are people aware of the dangers of consuming excess amounts of substances dubbed legal highs or even the effects of long term usage on the body?

Also a minor problem can be an interaction within the body between any prescribed medication, and the "legal high".

I would recommend the OP educate himself to the benefits and the side effects of chemicals such as mephodrone. Also check on the current legal status as several chemicals were criminalised as Class B others were rated as Class C, last year.

yes i do agree with you but I think it should be regulated, that there would be standards that would have to be met

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Does that mean you advocate drinking bleach, its legal to drink that too. Or sniff glue, after all glue is obtained legally by buying from a shop.

Simply because a substance has not been declared illegal, doesnt mean its safe to snort, sniff, inject, anally absorb or take into the body any other way.

Of course not, but they are still legal. I hope you would have went on the same rant to anyone discussing their favourite lagers in a thread. From a general standpoint there is no difference whatsoever between that and this.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Of course not, but they are still legal. I hope you would have went on the same rant to anyone discussing their favourite lagers in a thread. From a general standpoint there is no difference whatsoever between that and this.

They are legal simply from the viewpoint that they havent yet been banned because of their effect on the body, sooner or later someone may actually research their long term effects on the body and then no doubt they will be banned. Lat year the UK Government banned several substances feted as Legal Highs. (Spice, GBL, BZP)

We do however have studies on the long term effects of alcohol in general both in the damage to the individual and also to society in general. If it was a substance that had just been brought in for recreational use chances are it would be banned too. However like tobacco its a nice little earner for government by way of taxes. So it wont be banned in the near future. Attempts are underway to reduce alcohol abuse including studies looking at the possibility to price alcohol by strength with minimum prices so supermarkets etc cant use it a loss leader.

The aforementioned mephedrone is probably next on the list because its sold as a plant food product. However it has had more than a little bad publicity in the media. Its banned in several European countries now because of its dangers.

Last Year Doctor David Nutt who was chair on the Advisory Council for the Misuse of Drugs was sacked because he criticised the Governments policy on drugs stating that ecstasy etc was safer than a lot of the so called legal highs because they knew what its effects both long term and short term on the body. It had undergone rigorous tests. They also knew its chemical composition.

Because of the problem of as soon as one substance is banned someone else sidesteps the law by changing its composition slightly and creates a replacement, a consultation paper is under way, looking at the legalities of actually banning all mood/physiological altering chemical substances if found on a person and there is no reason to have it. For example although mephedrone is sold as a garden fertiliser, why would a teenager at a rave need tablets of it?

Most commercial lagers are pish. No ifs or buts.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Shasown

They are legal simply from the viewpoint that they havent yet been banned because of their effect on the body, sooner or later someone may actually research their long term effects on the body and then no doubt they will be banned. Lat year the UK Government banned several substances feted as Legal Highs. (Spice, GBL, BZP)

We do however have studies on the long term effects of alcohol in general both in the damage to the individual and also to society in general. If it was a substance that had just been brought in for recreational use chances are it would be banned too. However like tobacco its a nice little earner for government by way of taxes. So it wont be banned in the near future. Attempts are underway to reduce alcohol abuse including studies looking at the possibility to price alcohol by strength with minimum prices so supermarkets etc cant use it a loss leader.

The aforementioned mephedrone is probably next on the list because its sold as a plant food product. However it has had more than a little bad publicity in the media. Its banned in several European countries now because of its dangers.

Last Year Doctor David Nutt who was chair on the Advisory Council for the Misuse of Drugs was sacked because he criticised the Governments policy on drugs stating that ecstasy etc was safer than a lot of the so called legal highs because they knew what its effects both long term and short term on the body. It had undergone rigorous tests. They also knew its chemical composition.

Because of the problem of as soon as one substance is banned someone else sidesteps the law by changing its composition slightly and creates a replacement, a consultation paper is under way, looking at the legalities of actually banning all mood/physiological altering chemical substances if found on a person and there is no reason to have it. For example although mephedrone is sold as a garden fertiliser, why would a teenager at a rave need tablets of it?

Most commercial lagers are pish. No ifs or buts.

Not sure what you are getting at here, I agree with pretty much everything you said, but still this is no different to discussing alcohol on the forum. Thousands of years of testing and it's still dangerous as fuck. So we are discussing possible dangerous drugs as opposed to, say, discussing a drug that is definately dangerous. For the record I'm not an advocate of Mephedrone. It works amazingly well in small doses but it's very moreish and constant users tend to go off the rails on the stuff.

Lagers are pish, but that's some peoples thing .