[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

why is it that people these days trip over themselves to be politically correct ? PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE GAYS N MUSLIMS HAVE A RIGHT TO THERE OPINIONS

Opinions maybe but they don't have the right to break the law.

[cupid stunt]

just because something is the law dont make it right, or do you want a uk what is like 1984 big brother

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

just because something is the law dont make it right, or do you want a uk what is like 1984 big brother

whether you believe it is right or not is irrelivent, it is still the law. Like I said in a previous post, I don't think it's right that I have to pay road tax on my car when the roads are in such bad condition but If I don't they'll take my car so I do.

[cupid stunt]

when it becomes illegal to speak up against gordon brown and his crew, hope you remember that post THE LAW DOESNT MAKE SOMETHING RIGHT LIKE HOW WEED IS ILLEGAL WHEN ITS A NATURAL PLANT AND THE ****ING EVIL GOVERNMENT BANNED IT

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

when it becomes illegal to speak up against gordon brown and his crew, hope you remember that post THE LAW DOESNT MAKE SOMETHING RIGHT LIKE HOW WEED IS ILLEGAL WHEN ITS A NATURAL PLANT AND THE ****ING EVIL GOVERNMENT BANNED IT

Well, considering I'm Irish, Gordon Brown and his crew doen't effect me and never will!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

when it becomes illegal to speak up against gordon brown and his crew, hope you remember that post THE LAW DOESNT MAKE SOMETHING RIGHT LIKE HOW WEED IS ILLEGAL WHEN ITS A NATURAL PLANT AND THE ****ING EVIL GOVERNMENT BANNED IT

and the law may not make it right but it makes it...................illegal.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

The uk will either be muslim in 30 years or like 1984 big brother basically it will be hell and all because people wana be politically correct

I doubt that very much. I mean the gay issue for example, why would that actually bother anyone anyway? I mean I don't give a crap who you sleep with so why should it bother or affect you or anyone else who gay people choose to sleep with?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

its not about that, its about the fact that BRITISH PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO OPINIONS AND IF THEY DONT WANT GAYS IN THERE HOUSE THEN SO BE IT

That house was a B&B which is a business, if they don't want gays in their house fine but they can't use their house as a B&B then because it's against the law to discriminate like that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Opinions maybe but they don't have the right to break the law.

do you never speed in your car or use your mobile?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

do you never speed in your car or use your mobile?

Yes, I do and I got caught on my mobile once got a fine and I haven't done it since!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Yes, I do and I got caught on my mobile once got a fine and I haven't done it since!

I would imagine you break the law regarding speed every week?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I would imagine you break the law regarding speed every week?

probably everyday

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

do you never speed in your car or use your mobile?

There is a slight difference between breaking the Road Traffic Act and accepting the punishment meted out and trying to excuse being illegally discriminatory in the course of your business and using bigoted religious views about sexual preference as a defence.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shasown

There is a slight difference between breaking the Road Traffic Act and accepting the punishment meted out and trying to excuse being illegally discriminatory in the course of your business and using bigoted religious views about sexual preference as a defence.

yes and also, were I caught speeding I would have to pay my fine and admit that yes I broke the law and was in the wrong!

[Shaun]

I just don't think LT likes the gays, personally. Perhaps George turned down an offer of his sausage at Bible Camp.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I just don't think LT likes the gays, personally. Perhaps George turned down an offer of his sausage at Bible Camp.

You are wrong of course and it is a standard (lazy) defence when someone does not share your view.

Sexual preference is an individual decision and should have little bearing on who you are as a person and should not dominate your personality. as such it is not something i would use to decide whether i like someone or not, I have no idea what sexual prefs a lot of my pals like and i dont care.

I am more interested if someone likes football and or certain tv programmes. These are far better guides to what a chap or chappette is like in my book.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You are wrong of course and it is a standard (lazy) defence when someone does not share your view.

Sexual preference is an individual decision and should have little bearing on who you are as a person and should not dominate your personality. as such it is not something i would use to decide whether i like someone or not, I have no idea what sexual prefs a lot of my pals like and i dont care.
I am more interested if someone likes football and or certain tv programmes. These are far better guides to what a chap or chappette is like in my book.

Whether or not it is actually a decision is debatable LT.

The section that I have put in bold is exactly the reason why it is so out of order to be discriminated against because of who you sleep with.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Whether or not it is actually a decision is debatable LT.

The section that I have put in bold is exactly the reason why it is so out of order to be discriminated against because of who you sleep with.

What about when blokes get discriminated against at nightclubs (ie dont get in because they want more women)

What about fat people not getting jobs

What about attractive girls getting jobs

What about older people not getting tv work

What about ginger children

What about short men not getting dates

What about tall women not getting dates


Humans discriminate all the time, we all do.

[xDramatick]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What about when blokes get discriminated against at nightclubs (ie dont get in because they want more women)

What about fat people not getting jobs

What about attractive girls getting jobs

What about older people not getting tv work

What about ginger children

What about short men not getting dates

What about tall women not getting dates


Humans discriminate all the time, we all do.

this thread isn't about this though.
this thread is about two male adults who are in love, and were refused a holiday because of who they are, something they cannot change.

these B&B owners still disgust me, regardless of how much abuse they're getting. yeah, it's OTT but if you're gonna dish hate out you gotta take it back.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What about when blokes get discriminated against at nightclubs (ie dont get in because they want more women)

What about fat people not getting jobs

What about attractive girls getting jobs

What about older people not getting tv work

What about ginger children

What about short men not getting dates

What about tall women not getting dates


Humans discriminate all the time, we all do.

I don't really get the point you are trying to make here LT, I'm sure if someone was told they couldn't stay in a B&B because they were ginger etc. there would be as much if not more out cry about it!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I don't really get the point you are trying to make here LT, I'm sure if someone was told they couldn't stay in a B&B because they were ginger etc. there would be as much if not more out cry about it!

no, most people would have laughed

if they had been very fat most people would have agreed



my problemo with the whole story is that it is just about 2 people with unusual and slightly misguided views and as such they do not need their views used as some "general consensus" that needs to be exorcised through the courts.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no, most people would have laughed

if they had been very fat most people would have agreed



my problemo with the whole story is that it is just about 2 people with unusual and slightly misguided views and as such they do not need their views used as some "general consensus" that needs to be exorcised through the courts.

just to verify before I comment on anything are you referring to the men who got turned away or the B&B owners?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no, most people would have laughed

if they had been very fat most people would have agreed



my problemo with the whole story is that it is just about 2 people with unusual and slightly misguided views and as such they do not need their views used as some "general consensus" that needs to be exorcised through the courts.

I don't know the same kind of people you know then LT because I really don't think most people would have laughed at either fat or ginger people being refused entry to a business because of being Fat or ginger.

And again, you see it as "slightly mis-guided views" I see it as disgusting, out dated and bigoted views.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I don't know the same kind of people you know then LT because I really don't think most people would have laughed at either fat or ginger people being refused entry to a business because of being Fat or ginger.

And again, you see it as "slightly mis-guided views" I see it as disgusting, out dated and bigoted views.

If you see it as disgusting then I would suggest we leave it at that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you see it as disgusting then I would suggest we leave it at that.

grand.