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Originally Posted by Stu

Because it's not an opinion. That I find patronising. The fact that you want to degenerate a factual statement with no either or into just 'an opinion'. You make it sound like we have some sort of choice whether or not to believe in karma when we don't. At least not a real, viable choice. It's about the same choice as we have whether or not we want to believe the government is putting microphones in the walls and cameras in your shitter. Nil choice. Sure, you can believe in it if your slap happy, but it's not happening.

I never quiet understand where these belief arguments come from. As if belief is some healthy, enriching thing. It's the abandonment of reason in favour of a mind numbing, comforting 'magic' view of the world.

Belief should also indicate a plausible choice. Like you can't prove something either way. But we can prove karma is bollocks. So I'm not really sure what hope you are beliving in.

For me the belief argument is vailidated because science only goes back so far, the bang bang theory is grand but where did the things that banged come from, where did the very first piece of matter or whatever the term is come from?