[bansheewails]

JJ is a worse bitch that Grace in BB7 or whatever it was.. He knows that Rachel was booed going in and think that the public hate her so is going for her! If a woman had of been so nasty the public would have been baying for blood. JJ is being self serving and plain horrible thinking it will go in his favour later.

[arista]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I do understand both their sides where they are coming from. JJ obviously did not like the way Rachael had trated SS in the first few days and thought that Rachael was the typical popular girl from school... and he must have been hurt in the past BUT

I do really feel for Rachael, it must be hjard being told that your a horrible person, or coming across as arrogant.

I thought the whole conversation was sad last night
This has either wrecked Rachael's odds to stay, as all the girls of the public would side with JJ, or it could help Rachael survive eviction, as she ended up crying alone last night.... i felt for her.

I think JJ was a little harsh on her and she handled it very well and calmly during the conversation.

You do know that Down Under people are Harsh.

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Well said.

Double standards once again rears it's very ugly head.

she has been seen as a bitch whens he went off to bitch about other hm's
stop with all this we hate female b.s cause its sems like a excuse for you wong.

[skkc16]

Originally Posted by Zippy

JJ has been more of a bitch than rachael has. She didn't launch a stinging attack on anybody who had never done anything to her. He did and behind her back. He probably only told her coz he knew it would be seen on TV or the others would tell her. Damage limitation.

Rachael hasn't attacked anybody. JJ did. Seems your just biased and sexist. Only women can be bitches right?

And what interests does he have? Can't keep a job or a woman it seems. He's a bum who lives with his Mum and spends as much time on his appearance as Rachael does by all accounts.

And his stories do not add up. Fact.

I agree john must have had a bad experience in the past with pretty girls and he seems to b basing his judgement of rachel mainly on that which is not fair at all I hope she stays coz I want to see his face when she does he's such a gameplayer

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

she has been seen as a bitch whens he went off to bitch about other hm's
stop with all this we hate female b.s cause its sems like a excuse for you wong.

Most in the house have done the same and worse.

She seems to be getting a harder time of it.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

wong

Arse.

[chuff me dizzy]

Everything JJ said was true ,some people need telling and he had the guts to tell her in a nice way to her face,good on him !!

[Jords]

I missed it.

Will have to catch it on HL's.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Everything JJ said was true ,some people need telling and he had the guts to tell her in a nice way to her face,good on him !!

He told her AFTER he had ranted about her for a hour on late night live feed behind her back. Him talking to her afterwards had nothing to do with guts just damage limitation because he realised he had attacked somebody who had done nothing to him. Which could scupper his chances with the viewers who had seen it.

He's a game player big time. And he knows jacksh!t about Rachael. he could learn about her if he made the effort whilst in the house. But he prefers to just jump straight in with judgemental nasty opinions.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Zippy

He told her AFTER he had ranted about her for a hour on late night live feed behind her back. Him talking to her afterwards had nothing to do with guts just damage limitation because he realised he had attacked somebody who had done nothing to him. Which could scupper his chances with the viewers who had seen it.

He's a game player big time. And he knows jacksh!t about Rachael. he could learn about her if he made the effort whilst in the house. But he prefers to just jump straight in with judgemental nasty opinions.

No im sorry i disagree ,he went up in my opinion of him ,he maybe is like me who goes by his 1st impressions of people and is seldom wrong ,please dont single him out about bitching nearly all of them have done that

[Niamh.]

Lets be honest here, everyone *****ing bitches about people they don't like, we just don't get filmed doing it!! I would love for anyone here to tell me they have never done that, and I bet they're lying!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Lets be honest here, everyone *****ing bitches about people they don't like, we just don't get filmed doing it!! I would love for anyone here to tell me they have never done that, and I bet they're lying!

My hand is high in the air ,I have bitched and anyone who say they have not is a liar

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Lets be honest here, everyone *****ing bitches about people they don't like, we just don't get filmed doing it!! I would love for anyone here to tell me they have never done that, and I bet they're lying!

me lie never

this is true everyone does bitch buts its wrong in bb

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

me lie never

this is true everyone does bitch buts its wrong in bb

Bitching makes BB imo ,there nothing better than a good old fashioned bitch !! beats BB4 when everyone was sugar sweet ,please God dont try to turn the last show into that

[MrWong]

I don't think anyone has said bitching is wrong or that noone bitches in real life???

Just pointing out that others have bitched far more, Govan and JJ for instance. Whilst some have bitched less but are getting far more stick for it.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by Rachelll

The thing is he continued to bitch about the faces she pulls well afrter he had confronted her, he should have just let the issue lay. JJ was an ass last night. Sunshine to be evicted the boring med student.

Sunshine to stay - only one in there with any class and brain cells!

[Nick.B]

I have mixed feelings on this, because I like both housemates.

I think J-J did exactly right last night in terms of approaching Rachael and telling her about his problem, that shows he is a decent guy like that.

However, when you're being told you're arrogent and not nice by a person that you really like, I understand why it really hurt Rachael. Rachael took it very calmly and she did have a bit of a cry after and that is acceptable, it really is.

J-J does some really evil, nasty sinister looks, himself so where how he can get off telling Rachael that her looks are nasty, I don't know. He says that he hasn't got to know Rachael much yet as she looks down on people, which I don't think is true, I think she is a really nice person and has a lot to give to other housemates. I think it's just one of those facial expressions that she has. She has said she will try to change, but I don't think she an change that. That is one of her facial expressions, not because she's some sort of evil bitch.

What I also disagree with is the fact that AFTER J-J has approached Rachael he still continued to Bitch about her, behind her back to Govan instead of letting it lie. Rachael was genuinley sorry last night for something she doesn't have to be sorry for, as it's not really her fault she looks that way and she told him last night she doesn't do it nastily. She really likes J-J, she said she thinks he's hot, sexy and so on and so forth last night, but he just disregarded her feelings and didn't give a **** about what she had to say. Even when Rachael was explaining herself saying she isn't arrogent and that she only means the best and she would never look down on people, he was just looking away as though he didn't give a **** about what she was doing, but yet Rachael was really upset.

Yes, Rachael went outside for a smoke with her sun glasses on as she had a bit of a cry in the bathroom and she did of course say "I can;t believe he has said that..." etc... and she had every right to say that, because she couldn't actually believe he had done what he had done, and she told the others (Shabby, Ife, Caoimhe) what he had said because they questioned her about it, however, J-J just went and bitched behind her back about everything he could.

I do believe J-J likes Rachael, as much as he puts a front on about not liking and hating girls like her, I think deep down he likes her and maybe he has been hurt in the past and if he thinks he can insult Rachael and be evil to her, it will work for him, but he is sadly mistaken as it isn't working at the moment. J-J was saying last night how he didn't have to come to her and tell her what he thought, he could have just left it, not give a **** and not given her the time of day as long as they both last in the house, BUT, he did approach her and tell her what he thought. If he wasn't bothered what she thought and if he wasn't going to give her the time of day, WHY has he been and told her what he thinks?

Some of you have said Rachael is a bitch and is evil and somebody also said that they hope the highlights show shows her in her true light. This is why I love live streaming this year, you don't have to rely on the highlights show telling you half a story, and if you watch the LS then you will see that Rachael isn't really a bad person but the highlights show may portray her to be a nasty person, when she really isn't.

The big situation with Ben too. I don't think Rachael has ever lead Ben on. I say I think when I actually KNOW she has not lead Ben on. He's not her type and she has said on many occasions she finds him a bit weird and hates the whole touchy-feely thing. Ben just isn't her type, she has never lead him on, just because Ben has feelings for her does not say the feeling is mutual... he's just an idiot that has feelings for her and never once has Rachael said anything or done anything to ben to make him think anything could or may happen, he just needs to get over himself and realise it is going nowhere...

[Oooo_get_her]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Rachel is a bitch. if people dont "love" her then she attacks them and belittles them to regain control.


She is a classic narcissist. I would wager she has little interests outside the house save her appearance.

Spot on, in my estimation.