[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by angus58

It's a shame he couldn't do the same in the house instead of being shouted down by idiots who really don't have sufficient grasp of the facts to conduct a meaningful debate.

Poor Ben is flogging a dead horse in there if he's hoping for any intellectual stimulation - I often feel he deliberately plays the devil's advocate in order to stimulate conversation and opinions, but you can't really discuss any meaningful issues with people who have such small and closed minds.

Unfortunately those of us who havent been party to the whole conversation, probably will not ever see it to judge for ourselves. If you look at C4s BB site, there is no mention of it yet in the news section.
Censorship is the tool of dictators methinks.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by StGeorge

Unfortunately those of us who havent been party to the whole conversation, probably will not ever see it to judge for ourselves. If you look at C4s BB site, there is no mention of it yet in the news section.
Censorship is the tool of dictators methinks.

Judging by the glee displayed on this forum by many of Ben's haters, it will be just another stick to beat him with, despite the fact that most of them seem to have a very shaky grip on what exactly was said and in what context. I'm sure C4 will be more than capable of manipulating public opinion by the use of careful editing and censorship, as they did with Sunshine last week.

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by angus58

Judging by the glee displayed on this forum by many of Ben's haters, it will be just another stick to beat him with, despite the fact that most of them seem to have a very shaky grip on what exactly was said and in what context. I'm sure C4 will be more than capable of manipulating public opinion by the use of careful editing and censorship, as they did with Sunshine last week.

Im neither a fan or hater of Ben, but i do think that in some cases when certain subjects are broached on BB, that it could lead to a distortion of the facts and events. This is why i have posted here as i feel WW2 was justified and the timing was unavoidable.
Someone says Ben is Jewish....i dont know, but there are some who actually would still take his views and turn it. Im amazed that with all the photographic evidence out there, some still disbeleive the Holocust.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by StGeorge

Im neither a fan or hater of Ben, but i do think that in some cases when certain subjects are broached on BB, that it could lead to a distortion of the facts and events. This is why i have posted here as i feel WW2 was justified and the timing was unavoidable.
Someone says Ben is Jewish....i dont know, but there are some who actually would still take his views and turn it. Im amazed that with all the photographic evidence out there, some still disbeleive the Holocust.

Let's face it we have all had debates with friends, colleagues etc, about all sorts of sensitive subjects and often they are eye opening as to a person's true character, and often they are just the ramblings of someone making a controversial statement to shock or provoke a discussion. If someone is determined to believe or disbelieve something they will always be able to justify their stance one way or another. That's human nature.

Yes, Ben is Jewish - there is a brief piece about him in The Jewish Chronicle.
http://www.thejc.com/news/the-diary/...bs-ben-his-bum