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Originally Posted by vesavius

No, I get that

it was an open question though about why people don't like him and somewhat an attempt to lump us that don't as simple 'religion haters'.

I wanted to underline that this wasnt the case and that I don't like him for very specific reasons to him and not religion in general.

I wasnt trying to lump you all as religion haters, but just opening a gate into finding the reasons why Dave is so disliked. So far I have the tags that he is boring and a gameplanner, both which have no meaning anymore since they are thrown about without much thought anyway (normally used against those you simply 'dont like'). And then you judging him on what he does out of the house and with the church, not basing it on him as a person and what he has done within the BB house, which is what its supposed to be about.

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

i think in general housemates with a certain view on religion do tend to get typecast as lunatics or idiots as if their out of touch with the "real world".. in truth i think he's okay,the drunk off god thing isnt really an issue for me since i think we all get that feeling to a lesser extent (not neccesarily with god or religion though) the only thing that pisses me off is how he takes johns side in rediculing ben until the tables turned on john,then all of a sudden he was all up for backing ben and telling jj he had no social intelligence...

Yes I agree with this, I think they go in and have to earn approval to become liked, whereas others (normally the dummies who know nothing and are unable to have a strong opinion on anything to cause a possible stir) have it much easier gaining fans.

And Jon I do watch LF and find Mario very repetative and still boring..