[MTVN]

Any contact with Bulger's parents breaches the terms of their release

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well obviously [talk about stating the obvious]...someone had to give them their new identities. But very few people. Only really the ones 'in the know', not thousands

I think you should stop right there,i know a lot more than you think,so please drop it,we know your opinions anyway.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Their identities ARE known to some,and in any case have you never heard of video links?

Yes...but do you really think the parents would keep quiet about what they look like? No, no I don't.

[InOne]

Didn't the mother apprently see one of the killers once? She was tipped off, but when she finally saw him she was so consumed with rage she just stood there shaking.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yes...but do you really think the parents would keep quiet about what they look like? No, no I don't.

All I will say on this is that Denise knows what they look like,i am saying nothing else on this case.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Any contact with Bulger's parents breaches the terms of their release

Exactly.

Originally Posted by kazanne

i know a lot more than you think

Oh what, are you pen pals with them or something? You haven't seen them and neither have many others. If they had their identities would've been leaked to the press and public already, don't you think?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by InOne

Didn't the mother apprently see one of the killers once? She was tipped off, but when she finally saw him she was so consumed with rage she just stood there shaking.

Yes.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Saying you're remorseful and showing that you're remorseful are two different things. I'm not going by what he said I'm going by the professional opinions of the experts who studied him afterwards. And they really weren't clever at all.

the problem with rehabilitation as I previously said is that the only way of finding out if it's worked is by sending paedophiles/murderers back into society again and I'm sorry but if I had to make a choice on giving someone a second chance or fully protecting innocent children than I would choose the latter and never send a paedophile/murderer back into society ever again.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by InOne

Didn't the mother apprently see one of the killers once? She was tipped off, but when she finally saw him she was so consumed with rage she just stood there shaking.

Originally Posted by kazanne

All I will say on this is that Denise knows what they look like,i am saying nothing else on this case.

Okay, fair enough, I admit I didn't know this. So I apologise

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

the problem with rehabilitation as I previously said is that the only way of finding out if it's worked is by sending paedophiles/murderers back into society again and I'm sorry but if I had to make a choice on giving someone a second chance or fully protecting innocent children than I would choose the latter and never send a paedophile/murderer back into society ever again.

Excellent post, it says it all really, there is no 100% guarantee it wouldn't happen again so as you say totally correctly life should mean life for those caught.

[Angus]

Why have certain posts vanished? Censorship or what?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

the problem with rehabilitation as I previously said is that the only way of finding out if it's worked is by sending paedophiles/murderers back into society again and I'm sorry but if I had to make a choice on giving someone a second chance or fully protecting innocent children than I would choose the latter and never send a paedophile/murderer back into society ever again.

But surely if all the evidence points to them having reformed, it is the right thing to do to give them a second chance, I think that should be a fundamental right. Padeophillia is a grey area because it is far more engrained in the human mind, but a murder can be done in a rush of blood or something like that. Reformation has shown to be sucessful in the past, and with the added deterrent of retribution from serving their time, it is the best and the most fair policy imo.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by angus58

Why have certain posts vanished? Censorship or what?

LOL,note Angus the insults to me are still theresuch a fair place this TIBB,but at least they left mine on too

[InOne]

So folks, 25 pages of madness. What have we learnt?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

But surely if all the evidence points to them having reformed, it is the right thing to do to give them a second chance, I think that should be a fundamental right. Padeophillia is a grey area because it is far more engrained in the human mind, but a murder can be done in a rush of blood or something like that. Reformation has shown to be sucessful in the past, and with the added deterrent of retribution from serving their time, it is the best and the most fair policy imo.

Not imo no, a second chance for a criminal is not worth risking mine or anyone elses innocent child. I would prioritise and the innocent would be my priority.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by kazanne

LOL,note Angus the insults to me are still theresuch a fair place this TIBB,but at least they left mine on too

Lol, seriously though I had a mini emergency this end so had to leave the debate. When I got back posts exchanged between me and a certain FM had disappeared! Smacks to me of protecting their own.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by angus58

Lol, seriously though I had a mini emergency this end so had to leave the debate. When I got back posts exchanged between me and a certain FM had disappeared! Smacks to me of protecting their own.

i think so aswell.

[MissKittyFantastico]

What is all this 'protecting their own' stuff?

[InOne]

Angus and Jedward stick to the topic, this is no time for conspiracy theories

[Lucy.]

Whose posts have been deleted?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by InOne

Angus and Jedward stick to the topic, this is no time for conspiracy theories

ok but all i can say is,is that how can anybody care about pedophiles and killers unless you knew them personally?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

ok but all i can say is,is that how can anybody care about pedophiles and killers unless you knew them personally?

Who said I care about them? And you obviously care seen as you've posted so much about it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by InOne

Who said I care about them? And you obviously care seen as you've posted so much about it.

well you seem to care that people want the scumbags dead,and yes i care because i want the ****ers dead.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

well you seem to care that people want the scumbags dead,and yes i care because i want the ****ers dead.

Good for you.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

ok but all i can say is,is that how can anybody care about pedophiles and killers unless you knew them personally?

I don't 'care' about them, but in a lot of cases there is some form of mental illness involved, in fact paedophilia IS an illness, an incurable one at this moment in time, which is why I said they don't CHOOSE to go out and abuse children, it's a compulsion and while yes they deserve to be locked up and the key thrown away until some form of cure can be found (if it can be), I don't agree that they should be sentenced to death for what is an illness that they can't help acting on. More needs to be spent on learning about it and as the only surefire way of protecting children is to have them locked up then yes life should mean life as there is no known form of rehabilitation for their condition as yet.