[Stephanie]

Originally Posted by Phlip

That statistic is a massive crock of sh!t, tbh. I'd say about a good 18% are not straight.

you must be kidding, 18%?

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Phlip

That statistic is a massive crock of sh!t, tbh. I'd say about a good 18% are not straight.

That stat is about right,
but,
the variable is just what exactly someone may define 'homosexual' as. The best most scholarly studies have something between 1% - 3% who will say they have had homosexual experiences or 'been homosexual' at least for some time.
OK.
The thing is that this could be anything from someone who considered 'touching a friends penis' in some curiosity phases 20 years ago to be 'having been homosexual',
or,
this could be someone we might call 'openly, practicing, out-of-closet gay!'.
OR,
this can also means someone who (for example) did touch wangs with a uni friend but does NOT consider that counting as them having had a a homosexual experience.

To try and narrow it down some went to what may be the real experts - sales and marketing!
Again, not so easy to know if you can get this close to 'exact numbers' but you may look at:
- attendance (and repeat customers) and numbers of known 'gay nightclubs'.
- sales of 'gay sex products'.
- subscriptions to primarily gay newsletters
-attendance of primarily gay specific events (rallies, parades or lectures)

Somewhere in this you get something like .5 to 1.5% who we might be able to identify as 'confirmed homosexuals'. I don't enjoy that term but its communicating the idea of someone you would (if they chose to tell you) would identify and in some ongoing dedicated way be 'gay'.

At one time I was doing marketing research related to this and let me tell you the bosses would have LOVED to find out just exactly what % identified themselves (out or not) as homosexuals.
At the time there was every belief that (however many) on average homosexual men in particular had more disposable income and were reputed to respond very well to good marketing.

Anyways.. we also came up with something like about 1% going by everything from 'personal ads' to sales of gay DVDs at the adult shop to actually just questioning people we knew if they could think of anyone they knew heh.
(no, not pure science but then again you could say it WAS 'pure science' for what we could do).

Anyways.. what the hell was this topic about? Sorry im on a lot of different tablets right now.. wooooooo

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Phlip

That statistic is a massive crock of sh!t, tbh. I'd say about a good 18% are not straight.

It is an official figure and the best one we have. Unfortunately your estimate is irrelevant.

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It is an official figure and the best one we have. Unfortunately your estimate is irrelevant.

Official or not, it's a load of bullsh!t. 1.5? I am NOT that unique. Most of those people were either lying on they did those surveys in few types of places.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Official or not, it's a load of bullsh!t. 1.5? I am NOT that unique. Most of those people were either lying on they did those surveys in few types of places.

let it go

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

let it go

Little girl, you're the one with the ish'.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Little girl, you're the one with the ish'.

From up here in my ivory tower, it actually looks like you have the issue, with a demographic statistic. You couldnt provide some links that give some sort of credence to your guestimate, could you?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Stephanie

you must be kidding, 18%?

I think that could well be a more accurate figure, considering you have to factor in the people that are still in the closet and those that don't yet know they are gay because they're too young or haven't thought/explored their sexuality properly. And it also doesn't factor in the people that didn't take this survey or refused to answer. 1.5% is an extremely low figure, and theoretically, why is it not possible that 50% of the population is gay and the other is straight [or, if we factor in biseuxality, 33% each way, or if we factor in 'other' then 25% each way]. I don't understand how that is not conceivable?

I personally believe [as I've said before on here] it's entirely possible that the entire population of the planet is 100% bisexual, however some do not know it or will not chose to explore other avenues other than what they know is 'right' to themselves.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I think that could well be a more accurate figure, considering you have to factor in the people that are still in the closet and those that don't yet know they are gay because they're too young or haven't thought/explored their sexuality properly. And it also doesn't factor in the people that didn't take this survey or refused to answer. 1.5% is an extremely low figure, and theoretically, why is it not possible that 50% of the population is gay and the other is straight [or, if we factor in biseuxality, 33% each way, or if we factor in 'other' then 25% each way]. I don't understand how that is not conceivable?

I personally believe [as I've said before on here] it's entirely possible that the entire population of the planet is 100% bisexual, however some do not know it or will not chose to explore other avenues other than what they know is 'right' to themselves.

you do understand why we survey people?

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by Shasown

From up here in my ivory tower, it actually looks like you have the issue, with a demographic statistic. You couldnt provide some links that give some sort of credence to your guestimate, could you?

This is my judgement.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

And who are the Jews this year then?

El Proximo has a bit of a thing about Jews I think.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Livia

El Proximo has a bit of a thing about Jews I think.

Yeah, from what I've seen of his posts, he definitely does.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Livia

El Proximo has a bit of a thing about Jews I think.

No, I don't care one way or the other. I am observing how other people seem to care and going by how other people are reacting or have 'things' with Jews performing on X-Factor.

In the US version I predict that the black girl (or guy) cannot get to the top three.
Here again, its not 'my thing' but observing what other voters 'thing' is.

(same for chubby people or unattractive ones).