[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

at the end of the day Jack, besides the fact that she's extremely annoying she just doesn't have the talent to come any where in the competition and I'll be very surprised if she isn't gone on Sunday for that reason alone.

But...Katie does have talent...

She's interesting, quirky, different, has a nice voice [not the strongest, but it's nice], and has stage presence. That's essentially what the 'X Factor' is.

Most mainstream artists nowadays don't have much talent - so what's the difference? That's the market they're going to be competing in.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But...Katie does have talent...

She's interesting, quirky, different, has a nice voice [not the strongest, but it's nice], and has stage presence. That's essentially what the 'X Factor' is.

Most mainstream artists nowadays don't have much talent - so what's the difference? That's the market they're going to be competing in.

I don't think she has talent nor do I think she's interesting, but I suppose one mans interesting is another mans irritating.

I don't care about most mainstream artists tbh I watch the show for real talent and exceptional voices neither of which fits Katie

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I don't care about most mainstream artists tbh I watch the show for real talent and exceptional voices neither of which fits Katie

But the show is looking for a mainstream artist...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But the show is looking for a mainstream artist...

so? That's not why I watch it and if that's what they're looking for then it'll be Cher not katie

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

so? That's not why I watch it and if that's what they're looking for then it'll be Cher not katie

they will go for down the pop route again and get stupid direction to win.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

so? That's not why I watch it and if that's what they're looking for then it'll be Cher not katie

The point is that they're looking for a mainstream artist and Katie would be one of them, amongst others [whether they would be successful or not is irrelevant, they would still suit a mainstream market], and so thus wanting potential mainstream artists out of the competition pretty much goes against the entire point of the show...

In other words what you're saying is that you just watch the show for the 'talent', but then once the winner/other acts go into the mainstream music market you won't follow their progress because you don't care about mainstream artists? So I take it that applies to Matt as well?

The only potential mainstream artists this year are Cher, One Direction, Matt, Katie, Rebecca and possibly Aiden.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The point is that they're looking for a mainstream artist and Katie would be one of them, amongst others [whether they would be successful or not is irrelevant, they would still suit a mainstream market], and so thus wanting potential mainstream artists out of the competition pretty much goes against the entire point of the show...

Yes but what you're missing is that most people find Katie extremely annoying so why do you thin k that she would be a successful artist???

In other words what you're saying is that you just watch the show for the 'talent', but then once the winner/other acts go into the mainstream music market you won't follow their progress because you don't care about mainstream artists? So I take it that applies to Matt as well?

The only potential mainstream artists this year are Cher, One Direction, Matt, Katie, Rebecca and possibly Aiden.

I wouldn't say I would follow the winners progress as such no, I haven't really liked any of the winners so far. I have heard Ollys new song though which I do like and as for Matt depends on what kind of music he realises after

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Yes but what you're missing is that most people find Katie extremely annoying so why do you thin k that she would be a successful artist???

They find her 'extremely annoying' because of the crap they've lapped up in the tabloids. As I said, no one is giving her a fair chance...

And I never said 'successful', infact I specifically said whether they'd be succesful or not is irrelevant, they are still the only potential mainstream artists. Hypothetical success/failure doesn't come into it - they're the only potential mainstream artists and that's that.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But...Katie does have talent...

She's interesting, quirky, different, has a nice voice [not the strongest, but it's nice], and has stage presence. That's essentially what the 'X Factor' is.

Most mainstream artists nowadays don't have much talent - so what's the difference? That's the market they're going to be competing in.

thats one of the things she lacks for me when she performs and thats stage pressence,if it werent for my mom liking her so much i would have forgotten the performances by now.

niamxho my mom is a matt fan first.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

thats one of the things she lacks for me when she performs and thats stage pressence,if it werent for my mom liking her so much i would have forgotten the performances by now.

niamxho my mom is a matt fan first.

yay