[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But...Katie does have talent...

She's interesting, quirky, different, has a nice voice [not the strongest, but it's nice], and has stage presence. That's essentially what the 'X Factor' is.

Most mainstream artists nowadays don't have much talent - so what's the difference? That's the market they're going to be competing in.

I don't think she has talent nor do I think she's interesting, but I suppose one mans interesting is another mans irritating.

I don't care about most mainstream artists tbh I watch the show for real talent and exceptional voices neither of which fits Katie

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I don't care about most mainstream artists tbh I watch the show for real talent and exceptional voices neither of which fits Katie

But the show is looking for a mainstream artist...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But the show is looking for a mainstream artist...

so? That's not why I watch it and if that's what they're looking for then it'll be Cher not katie

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

so? That's not why I watch it and if that's what they're looking for then it'll be Cher not katie

they will go for down the pop route again and get stupid direction to win.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

so? That's not why I watch it and if that's what they're looking for then it'll be Cher not katie

The point is that they're looking for a mainstream artist and Katie would be one of them, amongst others [whether they would be successful or not is irrelevant, they would still suit a mainstream market], and so thus wanting potential mainstream artists out of the competition pretty much goes against the entire point of the show...

In other words what you're saying is that you just watch the show for the 'talent', but then once the winner/other acts go into the mainstream music market you won't follow their progress because you don't care about mainstream artists? So I take it that applies to Matt as well?

The only potential mainstream artists this year are Cher, One Direction, Matt, Katie, Rebecca and possibly Aiden.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The point is that they're looking for a mainstream artist and Katie would be one of them, amongst others [whether they would be successful or not is irrelevant, they would still suit a mainstream market], and so thus wanting potential mainstream artists out of the competition pretty much goes against the entire point of the show...

Yes but what you're missing is that most people find Katie extremely annoying so why do you thin k that she would be a successful artist???

In other words what you're saying is that you just watch the show for the 'talent', but then once the winner/other acts go into the mainstream music market you won't follow their progress because you don't care about mainstream artists? So I take it that applies to Matt as well?

The only potential mainstream artists this year are Cher, One Direction, Matt, Katie, Rebecca and possibly Aiden.

I wouldn't say I would follow the winners progress as such no, I haven't really liked any of the winners so far. I have heard Ollys new song though which I do like and as for Matt depends on what kind of music he realises after

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Yes but what you're missing is that most people find Katie extremely annoying so why do you thin k that she would be a successful artist???

They find her 'extremely annoying' because of the crap they've lapped up in the tabloids. As I said, no one is giving her a fair chance...

And I never said 'successful', infact I specifically said whether they'd be succesful or not is irrelevant, they are still the only potential mainstream artists. Hypothetical success/failure doesn't come into it - they're the only potential mainstream artists and that's that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

They find her 'extremely annoying' because of the crap they've lapped up in the tabloids. As I said, no one is giving her a fair chance...

or because they see her every week on the show........

And I never said 'successful', infact I specifically said whether they'd be succesful or not is irrelevant, they are still the only potential mainstream artists. Hypothetical success/failure doesn't come into it - they're the only potential mainstream artists and that's that.

so could anyone really.......

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

They find her 'extremely annoying' because of the crap they've lapped up in the tabloids. As I said, no one is giving her a fair chance...

I think its very ignorant to assume the only reason people find her annoying is because they lap up everything that is said in rags. Some people make their own opinion on what they SEE. And she comes across as a bit of a spoilt bitch to be honest :/

That said, I can give or take her. Her voice is OK but nothing special really. And the song choices for her have been terrible. I think cheryl is focusing on cher more for some odd reason...and just throwing anything at the other girls.