[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

That is called bias. Based on who you like.

Being in tune is not an opinion, its a fact.

But my point is - how are we supposed to decipher whether someone is right that she was out of tune or that someone else is right that they were in tune? How is it possible to decipher who is right and who is wrong? Because both sides will believe they are right - so surely it's got to be an opinion? If it's not and it's just bias, then one of the sides could easily say 'you're the one that's biased', but the other could then say the same, thus providing no resolution. So it's got to be an opinion if everyone can't agree that she was in/out of tune and whether people are biased or not? What else could it be?

Originally Posted by Vicky.

That being said, she was not out of tune for the entire performance, only in parts.

Well that I agree with, though only small parts.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But my point is - how are we supposed to decipher whether someone is right that she was out of tune or that someone else is right that they were in tune? How is it possible to decipher who is right and who is wrong? Because both sides will believe they are right - so surely it's got to be an opinion? If it's not and it's just bias, then one of the sides could easily say 'you're the one that's biased', but the other could then say the same, thus providing no resolution. So it's got to be an opinion if everyone can't agree that she was in/out of tune and whether people are biased or not? What else could it be?

It is not opinion though. This is what I am saying.

Bias comes into it with people defending/slating her for being in/out of tune...but the fact of the matter is, each performance either IS or IS NOT out of tune. How people chose to take that is entirely up to them, but it is not someones opinion. At all.

This has kinda already been proved by you denying she was out of tune, and then later deciding that she was out of tune in parts



Anyways this is going round in circles, and i get the feeling that you are kinda missing the point deliberately (sorry if you are not) so this is my last post on this matter.