[Novo]

Ireland won't win because they don't have the backing of enough countries, they will get a few 4 or 5's here and there though

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Novo

Ireland won't win because they don't have the backing of enough countries, they will get a few 4 or 5's here and there though

Actually in a more open contest, those kind of votes 5 to 8s could be enough to win if it was near across the board. That of course is 'if' the voting in Eurovision this year will be the same as last year.

[Kerry]

It's been a political contest for years now. I just watch for Terry (past) and now Grahams remarks

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

It's been a political contest for years now. I just watch for Terry (past) and now Grahams remarks

This.

It was one of the highlights of the show when I used to watch it when Terry Wogan was presenting - with his wicked one liners and pot shots at which country would vote for which, with his not so 'tongue in cheek' acknowledgement that allies were sooking up each others arses to keep in each others good books. Even if the songs were the worst thing ever.....

As I said earlier: the contest is a joke. Anyone taking it seriously need their heads looked at.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

This.

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As I said earlier: the contest is a joke. Anyone taking it seriously need their heads looked at.

I agree Pyramid, it is more of a joke but a highly prestigious one for International recognition. I actually find I like the diversity of the other countries and the songs they put in,its a highly enjoyable joke but that's only my opinion.

I don't take it seriously,but enjoy it enormously.as do all my student friends who watch it avidly too. It still gets a massive audience watching it and voting in it too.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree Pyramid, it is more of a joke but a highly prestigious one for International recognition. I actually find I like the diversity of the other countries and the songs they put in,its a highly enjoyable joke but that's only my opinion.

I don't take it seriously,but enjoy it enormously.as do all my student friends who watch it avidly too. It still gets a massive audience watching it and voting in it too.

Highly prestigious? Oh come on!!!

It's never that in it's life. Entertaining in a completely inane way, but never ever could it be considered of prestigious International recognition.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Highly prestigious? Oh come on!!!

It's never that in it's life. Entertaining in a completely inane way, but never ever could it be considered of prestigious International recognition.

Surprised you take that line sadly, it used to be the vehicle for some artists to break through worldwide, Celine Dion,Johnny Logan had massive world success and they were in Eurovision but it openred the door for loads of UK acts across Europe after they represented the UK.

The last 7 or 8 years it has lost that status but it did if you read the history of Eurovision,open the door for many acts worldwide that otherwise may have stayed closed to them.

[Novo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Actually in a more open contest, those kind of votes 5 to 8s could be enough to win if it was near across the board. That of course is 'if' the voting in Eurovision this year will be the same as last year.

But it hasn't been an open contest for years.. so it's not going to be enough, there is always a few countries that create a massive lead over the rest and pick up 10 & 12 points from neighbouring countries

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Novo

But it hasn't been an open contest for years.. so it's not going to be enough, there is always a few countries that create a massive lead over the rest and pick up 10 & 12 points from neighbouring countries

You are absolutely right, but Ireland is not as hated like the UK is across the newer countries who vote highly for each other,if the song is liked and you have 2 full of life characters like Jedward then as with Norway one year who always got near no points every year, then the votes can swing their way.

I accept its a political contest now but Ireland is seen as a better country than the UK.

To the comment by Stu that the whole of Ireland didn't vote for Jedward to be the representing act for the country,that's also true , but of all the choices to represent Ireland in the contest, they were the ones chosen by public vote, so maybe you are right that the whole country may not love Jedward but they certainly don't appear to dislike them much either.Certainly not the way you do anyway.

I think they are well suited to Eurovision, I think Louis also knows full well, this can really establish them worldwide,they are likely to at some point in the future become like an Ant and Dec, love them or hate them,they are here to stay, the haters of them can huff and puff all they like until they go red in the face but Louis is going to keep these lads well in the media and develop a massive career for them on TV,likely even in the States too.