[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

orly? well please explain to me how killing someone is sane in any way.

Enlighten me. plz.

Speaking about enlightenment, what crime did McKinnon commit?

It has even been admitted by US officials that he accessed the various sites through open access, not through backdoors etc. He followed links and managed to find ways into restricted access areas. He did not force or hack passwords etc.

Oh and he left silly and anti american messages.

Apparently he caused "great" damage, which US authorities are unable or unwilling to define.

What did he actually do. Upset someone? Damaged someones national pride? Is that really a crime?

As for killing being sane, to someone with no respect for life, killing could be an easy option to a problem, it doesnt mean the person is mentally ill.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Speaking about enlightenment, what crime did McKinnon commit?

It has even been admitted by US officials that he accessed the various sites through open access, not through backdoors etc. He followed links and managed to find ways into restricted access areas. He did not force or hack passwords etc.

Oh and he left silly and anti american messages.

Apparently he caused "great" damage, which US authorities are unable or unwilling to define.

What did he actually do. Upset someone? Damaged someones national pride? Is that really a crime?

As for killing being sane, to someone with no respect for life, killing could be an easy option to a problem, it doesnt mean the person is mentally ill.

So i guess you'd have no problem with me poking around yur computer, leaving "silly anti-shasown messeges" on yur computer. you'd be completely fine with that would you?

I'm sure you wouldn't feel violated in any way.

Well if that's how you fell, i can only say, you and i are very different, cause i'd be incredibly upset and disturbed if someone did that to my computer.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

So i guess you'd have no problem with me poking around yur computer, leaving "silly anti-shasown messeges" on yur computer. you'd be completely fine with that would you?

I'm sure you wouldn't feel violated in any way.

Difference is I have firewalls and passwords and make full use of them. Your lot didnt.

If you could get in and leave any sort of message I would applaud you. Then look for a better security system.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Difference is I have firewalls and passwords and make full use of them.

If you could get in and leave any sort of message I would applaud you.

i wouldn't want to, because i think it would be a violation.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i wouldn't want to, because i think it would be a violation.

You still dont get it do you?

He accessed open access sites and then followed various links to areas that should have been password and firewall protected. They werent.


Its a bit like someone going into a museum and wandering round. then finding themselves in the storage area out the back because there wasnt signs or barriers to stop them walking the way they did.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Shasown

You still dont get it do you?

He accessed open access sites and then followed various links to areas that should have been password and firewall protected. They werent.


Its a bit like someone going into a museum and wandering round. then finding themselves in the storage area out the back because there wasnt signs or barriers to stop them walking the way they did.

again, yu mentioned being naive?? are you honestly telling me that he didn't know he was entering systems that he didn't belong in?? Yur telling me that it never crossed his mind that entering NASA or the Pentagon was illegal?

Gimme a break.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

again, yu mentioned being naive?? are you honestly telling me that he didn't know he was entering systems that he didn't belong in?? Yur telling me that it never crossed his mind that entering NASA or the Pentagon was illegal?

Gimme a break.

Its not illegal to access the US Department of Defense Website, nor is it illegal to access the NASA, in fact its encouraged.

http://www.defense.gov/
http://www.nasa.gov/

Its the areas he ended up in, they didnt like, then again if they didnt want people in there, they should have had it firewalled, password protected etc.

They have now so maybe they should in fact be thanking him, after all he did leave messages saying the security was pants. He even explained how he got where he did so as to help them secure the information he could have accessed.