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I believe global warming is real and human activity is contributing to it. 17 62.96%
I believe global warming is real and human activity is contributing to it.
17 62.96%
I believe the earth is warming up but human activity is not responsible for it. 7 25.93%
I believe the earth is warming up but human activity is not responsible for it.
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I believe global warming is a fraud. 3 11.11%
I believe global warming is a fraud.
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Old 19-02-2011, 11:22 PM #1
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The "Pascal" argument is really just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to my problems with this video. He says that the cost of doing something about global warming is that we lose money and go into a depression but it's easy to forget that people around the world will suffer from higher food prices. Higher food prices for some people means the difference between life and death. And I would make the argument that if the earth is warming up it may benefit life. The vast majority of life exists close to the warmer climates by the equator and hardly any life exists in colder climates like the north pole. Maybe in the shortrun a degree increase will hurt life but longterm it will help life because plants will grow where they didn't before which will benefit animals and man. Someone still needs to convince me that a degree increase will certainly be bad for humanity because I'm not convinced.

I must admit that video irks me. I have a masters in mathematics and I feel I am educated enough to respond to it. If I had the technology I'd be tempted to make a video response to it and rip it to shreds.
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The "Pascal" argument is really just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to my problems with this video. He says that the cost of doing something about global warming is that we lose money and go into a depression but it's easy to forget that people around the world will suffer from higher food prices. Higher food prices for some people means the difference between life and death. And I would make the argument that if the earth is warming up it may benefit life. The vast majority of life exists close to the warmer climates by the equator and hardly any life exists in colder climates like the north pole. Maybe in the shortrun a degree increase will hurt life but longterm it will help life because plants will grow where they didn't before which will benefit animals and man. Someone still needs to convince me that a degree increase will certainly be bad for humanity because I'm not convinced.

I must admit that video irks me. I have a masters in mathematics and I feel I am educated enough to respond to it. If I had the technology I'd be tempted to make a video response to it and rip it to shreds.
LOL Don't make me laugh. You are telling me you have a masters degree in mathematics and yet you didn't even know who Pascal was -one of the greatest contributors to geometry in the Western world, the inventer of the mechanical calculator and after whom the famous unit for measuring physical pressure was named-. Pathetic.
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LOL Don't make me laugh. You are telling me you have a masters degree in mathematics and yet you didn't even know who Pascal was -one of the greatest contributors to geometry in the Western world, the inventer of the mechanical calculator and after whom the famous unit for measuring physical pressure was used-. Pathetic.
Absolutely I know who Pascal was. I've used Pascal's triangle a lot over the years but I didn't know off the top of my head who it was who presented the religious argument (it's been 6 years since I took the History of Math class where I learned it).

And anyways, in math you don't focus on biographies of mathematicians you focus on their work.
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Absolutely I know who Pascal was. I've used Pascal's triangle a lot over the years but I didn't know off the top of my head who it was who presented the religious argument (it's been 6 years since I took the History of Math class where I learned it).

And anyways, in math you don't focus on biographies of mathematicians you focus on their work.
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I got me a masters in mathematics!
Normally, I am very reluctant to give away my real name on the internet but because I am so passionate on this global warming issue, I'll make an exception. What do you have to say now, BB_Eye?
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I got me a masters in mathematics!
Normally, I am very reluctant to give away my real name on the internet but because I am so passionate on this global warming issue, I'll make an exception. What do you have to say now, BB_Eye?
This could be anyone. I still don't believe you.
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Normally, I am very reluctant to give away my real name on the internet but because I am so passionate on this global warming issue, I'll make an exception. What do you have to say now, BB_Eye?
That's quite an achievement and definitely something to be proud of, but you will still get the gainsayers on here, be warned. Don't worry most of them are just jealous, having achieved so little in their own lives. Me? I'm suitably impressed
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That's quite an achievement and definitely something to be proud of, but you will still get the gainsayers on here, be warned. Don't worry most of them are just jealous, having achieved so little in their own lives. Me? I'm suitably impressed
Thanks. I don't think a lot of people will be jealous but if they are I'll take it as a form of flattery. The only reason I posted it was BB_Eye demanded that I prove I had one because he thought I was lying.

And this illustrates something else I've noticed: In this debate the side that supports the global warming myth will often attack their opponents credibility whilst debating them. Take for example Lord Monckton testifying before the Congress. The global warming Congress members don't even bother challenging what he has to say and instead accuse him of not even being a Lord (maybe the only time in your life you will ever see Americans fuss over the legitimacy of British hereditary titles) and even make fun of his name saying he was "appropriately named".


Whenever there is a controversial subject (like global warming, 9/11, etc.) the side that doesn't have the evidence to back up their side will try to sabotage their opponents credibility.
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