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Originally Posted by Shasown

A reasonable argument I suppose, unfortunately its not backed up by any evidence whatsoever.

If you educated yourself on the subject, lets say for example going onto the Ministry of Justices website and looking at re offending rates, you would know that prisoners who serve in the more harsher regimes within the prison system have higher re-offending rates.

The lowest re-offending rates within the whole justice system occur when the criminal is involved with some form of community work and rehabilitating education. Either in or out of prison.

who do you think you are telling people to educate themselves as if you are some all knowing wise monk, stop being condescending

your logic is all screwed up on reasons for re offending rates

the reason the more hardline prisoners have a higher re offending rate is not because they served sentence in the "harsher regime" it is because they are more hardline criminals! that is why they are there in the first place

the ones with low re offending rates taking part in community service are the lower level criminals so naturally there is a much greater chance they will not repeat offend once they are released

to lower the re offending rate, hardline criminals should be given much longer sentences and prison be made more punishing (no violence and torture as you exaggerated)
if they are in prison for longer, which they should be anyway, they cannot commit crimes can they
if the prison is a hellhole then they are much less likely to re offend as they will not want to go back ever
and the threat of going to a hellhole prison will lower crime rates