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A tiny minority of Irishmen fought for England in the colonial days. Many of them were treated as lepers by the Irish for treason and betrayal. A sizeable number of Irishmen fought in the first World War but then that was on another scale altogether. To say Ireland should shoulder some responsibility for the British Empire's atrocities I feel is both ignorant and insulting. By becoming victim to these atrocities we became unwitting participants in the British Empire ... to then have to shoulder some of the responsibility?

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You've kind of taken me away from the main point of my argument, I can kind of understand Ireland's case and was reluctant to include them in my first post but I dont think you can say the same for Scotland. Scots were hardly hostile to Britain's actions, the Scramble for Africa encouraged a wave of Popular Imperialism in Scotland just as much as it did in England and there were several prominent Scottish missionaries which encouraged expansion, most notably David Livingstone. And when this was, at times, done by Scottish Prime Ministers with the full support of plenty of Scottish Regiments then nah, you're not blameless and above being held responsible.

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You've kind of taken me away from the main point of my argument, I can kind of understand Ireland's case and was reluctant to include them in my first post but I dont think you can say the same for Scotland. Scots were hardly hostile to Britain's actions, the Scramble for Africa encouraged a wave of Popular Imperialism in Scotland just as much as it did in England and there were several prominent Scottish missionaries which encouraged expansion, most notably David Livingstone. And when this was, at times, done by Scottish Prime Ministers with the full support of plenty of Scottish Regiments then nah, you're not blameless and above being held responsible.

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