[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Stacey.

Why do you quote me in like every thread?

This is the first time ive quoted you in ages

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Why not? A nineteen year old for example is old enough to be married, have children but you think they shouldn't take curtains down?

BTW: This is a debate thread folks: no use taking the hump about it and going on the attack: I'm putting forward a genuinely serious thread to discuss the lack of education these days.

FFS, how often do you change the size of your curtains?

Or do you measure them every time they're washed.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

FFS, how often do you change the size of your fucking curtains?

Or do you measure them every time they're washed.

How about if it was wheels and tyres for your car instead of curtains ?

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Smithy

90% of the dictionary is out of your vocabulary

I think you'd be overachieving if you had so much as 10% of the dictionary in your vocabulary. There are 600,000 words in the Oxford English Dictionary (and it's growing). Most of us will only ever use around 6,000 in our lifetime.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

How about if it was wheels and tyres for your car instead of curtains ?

Taking down curtains and measuring them is drastically different to changing the tyre of a car.

And that is what the AA is for, lol.

[Jords]

I think people are just getting lazy, rather than being thick..

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Jords

I think people are just getting lazy, rather than being thick..

90% of the time this I reckon!

Anyway I agree a lot with what Pyramid says. However there is a hint of snobbery in it too.

Yes.. Knowledge is power. However there is something better than Knowledge and that is actually "doing something". Sure you can get that smarty pants know it all who can memorise god knows what from Royal history to Chinese history to whatever. But some of these people can't really "do" anything.

I think possibly the education system is fine. Maybe they should teach more "life" skills though. The main thing wrong with the education system is that there is no discipline.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Taking down curtains and measuring them is drastically different to changing the tyre of a car.

I didn't mean changing the tyre of a car - I mean choosing a new set of wheels and tyres to buy which will fit your car from the dozens (possibly hundreds) of different combinations of size and design available to you .....

[patsylimerick]

Tried this earlier but it got lost. The two most knowledgable historians I've ever met were educated to, at best, the age of 12, first time around. They both subsequently returned to higher education much, much later in life. At that stage they were contributing more than they were taking by adding to the body of knowledge in their areas of expertise. So to Stacey and anyone who feels the same way on the subject I would suggest joining their local library. Books, books, books, to very badly paraphrase Joyce, yes, yes, yes.

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by Beastie

90% of the time this I reckon!

Anyway I agree a lot with what Pyramid says. However there is a hint of snobbery in it too.

Yes.. Knowledge is power. However there is something better than Knowledge and that is actually "doing something". Sure you can get that smarty pants know it all who can memorise god knows what from Royal history to Chinese history to whatever. But some of these people can't really "do" anything.

I think possibly the education system is fine. Maybe they should teach more "life" skills though. The main thing wrong with the education system is that there is no discipline.

They can pass it on; and/or write it down. More value in that than in the deepest depths of the European Central Bank.

[Boothy]

Originally Posted by Jords

I think people are just getting lazy, rather than being thick..

yeah, i;d agree with this. i think a llot also boils tdown to interest too. Like, if I'm ionterested in a subject, I'll go an research it. there are too many distractions these days to actually get interested in worthwhile stuff

[Omah]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7115692.stm

Based on test results in 2006, the UK has lost the top 10 positions it held for both subjects seven years ago.

The most successful countries in reading are South Korea and Finland and teenagers in Taiwan and Finland are the highest achievers in maths.

In 2000, the UK was placed eighth in maths and seventh in reading - the UK in the latest table is in 24th place for maths and 17th for literacy.

The countries which were ahead of the UK in reading in 2000 - Finland, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Ireland, Korea - remain in the top 10 for this year.

But the UK has now been overtaken by countries including Poland, Sweden, the Netherlands and Japan.

In maths, the UK has been overtaken by a group of improved performers, including Slovenia, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark and Austria.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Boothy

yeah, i;d agree with this. i think a llot also boils tdown to interest too. Like, if I'm ionterested in a subject, I'll go an research it. there are too many distractions these days to actually get interested in worthwhile stuff

Spot on, I totally am in agreement with you.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

I didn't mean changing the tyre of a car - I mean choosing a new set of wheels and tyres to buy which will fit your car from the dozens (possibly hundreds) of different combinations of size and design available to you .....

That is what garages and mechanic uncles are for.

Edit - That's uncles who are mechanics not a mechanical uncle.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

That is what garages and mechanic uncles are for.

Edit - That's uncles who are mechanics not a mechanical uncle.

So you let other people make decisions for you .....

[Niamh.]

Well, I know nothing about the Royals and believe I asked the question about Diana and whether or not her family had titles but I'm not British and know nothing about the Royals so I think that's allowed! The other examples you gave, I believe are life skills that parents should be responsible for not the education system

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, I know nothing about the Royals and believe I asked the question about Diana and whether or not her family had titles but I'm not British and know nothing about the Royals so I think that's allowed! The other examples you gave, I believe are life skills that parents should be responsible for not the education system

What was the question ?

[Daniel McIver]

why do people need to know about the royal family if there not bothered. end of.

(by the way i do actually like the royals ,there awesome and im not a school kid anymore but back to the point)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

What was the question ?

one of the things on the list in the OP was : "Diana had a title before she met Charles?"

and this is something I asked in the Royal wedding thread.

[joeysteele]

What I have found and I think it sad really is when I go abroad,people seem to know so much of their Countries as to now and the past, here in the UK so much is not known by the citizens of the UK.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

So you let other people make decisions for you .....

Haha, it's called getting the experts opinion from someone you trust.
I.e. family member.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

one of the things on the list in the OP was : "Diana had a title before she met Charles?"

and this is something I asked in the Royal wedding thread.

Ah, OK .....

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

one of the things on the list in the OP was : "Diana had a title before she met Charles?"

and this is something I asked in the Royal wedding thread.

TBH, I didn't know an awful lot about the Royals and their connections etc.
But I borrowed a couple of books which discussed all of the evidence that supports the conspiracy that Diana was assassinated (very interesting read by the way) and that got me researching all sorts and asking questions about the whole family and everything. (Made me detest Camilla too, lol).

Bit late now to get interested in history but I don't think we ever covered the Royal family at school.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

Ah, OK .....

But like I said, I'm not British so I doubt I'm expected to know the answer anyway!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

TBH, I didn't know an awful lot about the Royals and their connections etc.
But I borrowed a couple of books which discussed all of the evidence that supports the conspiracy that Diana was assassinated (very interesting read by the way) and that got me researching all sorts and asking questions about the whole family and everything. (Made me detest Camilla too, lol).

Bit late now to get interested in history but I don't think we ever covered the Royal family at school.

I loved history but the Royals weren't on our curriculum