[Liberty4eva]

Personally, I think this is an excellent example of how a falsehood can become established truth. Like the Oklahoma City Bombing, 9/11, and 7/7, when the event actually happens there are a few brave independent thinkers who challenge the story but they can't compete with the corporate media who have a broad audience and all dutifully parrot the official story night after night and day after day. Then when the interest fades and the masses get tired of the story and move onto other things then the lie becomes sealed as established truth. Anyone who challenges the official story at that point is looked upon as a cook.

So before we get to the point where the interest fades and this story of bin Laden's last stand becomes established truth, let me say I think the whole thing stinks. I don't believe a word of it. It sounds all too good to be true. Hiding behind his wife? Being asked to surrender? Intellegence from Guantanamo Bay playing a role? And, best of all, ditching the body into the ocean because allegedly no country would take his remains and they wanted to honor Islamic burial procedures? And guess what: I've heard they've even decided to write a book about the whole operation! You'll be able to buy your copy this July! Besides shamelessly making a few bucks, this book will invariably be used to further plant the lie in people's minds.

Until I see ONE reporter look a government official in the eye and ask, in a starkly serious and somber tone, why in the world did you dump his body in the ocean hours after killing him when you spent TEN YEARS and a lot of money trying to get it, they're all lapdogs in my eyes.

As stupid and incompetent as our government officials may be, they must have been aware that there would be people like myself who would not believe bin Laden died in this manner until his body was put into public display and independent doctors were allowed to examine it. They must have known that hastily dumping the body into the ocean where obviously no one would be able to examine it would make some people in the Middle East think that he's still alive, like some people still think Elvis is alive or Hitler is still alive. And it'll be even worse because at least it's still presumably possible to access Elvis's remains.

So before this latest lie becomes established truth, if anyone wants to voice their suspicions then do so now. This is the time when people will have the maximum amount of interest in the story and the maximum amount of open-mindedness. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

I smell a rat! Who's with me?

[CharlieO]

I dont believe it to be honest. it just so happens that he was killed on an american 3 year economical low?? hitlers death days as well? and they dispose of the evidence straight after it happened?

too fishy for my liking and if what i think is true it worked american stock markets rocketed after this incident. Until legit pictures come out or i see an interview im not believing it.

The burial at sea is being blamed on islamic law, we saw Sadam why couldn't we have seen Osama?? because its bull s**te

Also it could be a plan to actually locate him, if they say he is dead and he isn't it could trigger him to make another video which america could use to know where he is or if he is actually alive or died in a non america related way?

oh and how could america have actually proved it was him before killing him without looking at DNA properly?? Or had a massive investigation, i either doubt the whole thing or whether it actually happened a couple of days ago.

[joeysteele]

I hope he is dead,but I have my doubts and really they have created this suspicion by disposing of his body so quickly.

They say he was identified by one of his wives, that's a strong piece of evidence I think not. I don't really know on this one, I hope he is gone but like the OP I have a lot of doubts.
I would have thought many and long tests would have been done to ensure that he was Bin Laden they killed which certainly would have taken more like days than a couple of hours.

On the other side, would the USA if they had any uncertainty as to it being him, want to expose themselves to the ridicule if it was proven he wasn't in the future.
What though did they not want the World to see or find out on this.It's odd.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

I dont believe it to be honest. it just so happens that he was killed on an american 3 year economical low?? hitlers death days as well? and they dispose of the evidence straight after it happened?

too fishy for my liking and if what i think is true it worked american stock markets rocketed after this incident. Until legit pictures come out or i see an interview im not believing it.
Also it could be a plan to actually locate him, if they say he is dead and he isn't it could trigger him to make another video which america could use to know where he is or if he is actually alive or died in a non america related way?

oh and how could america have actually proved it was him before killing him without looking at DNA properly?? Or had a massive investigation, i either doubt the whole thing or whether it actually happened a couple of days ago.

Oh they'll have pictures. I'll bet you 100 dollars or pounds (take your pick) they will release a picture or pictures of some corpse that either looks vaguely like Osama from a distance or the guy's face will be so damaged that there will be no way to verify that it is him. They'll absolutely have something. Some of us may remember a video of "Osama's" confession was very luckily found in Afghanistan.

The guy looked kind of like Osama from a distance but when you zoomed in the guy looked obviously different from the real Osama (see below).



They'll absolutely have pictures. It's not hard to find someone who kind of has Osama's facial features and make him look like Osama like this phoney Osama in the above picture. They'll absolutely have pictures. The thing is it won't be the real Osama.

[arista]

Film of the attack will be out soon.

The Problem in Pakistan is many Police are connected to Terror Gangs.
So no way were they told until after he was dead.


His Body is a problem
so it had to go under the Sea.

Terror Attacks are going to come.
Bin Laden had some planned.



His Last Big Attack was those Pakistani Machine Gun men
in Mumbai India.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by arista

Film of the attack will be out soon.
The Problem in Pakistan is many Police are connected to Terror Gangs.
So no way were they told until after he was dead.


His Body is a problem
so it had to go under the Sea.

Terror Attacks are going to come.
Bin Laden had some planned.



His Last Big Attack was those Pakistani Machine Gun men
in Mumbai India.

Kind of like the fake video of Osama's confession? Note that the man in the following video kind of looks like Osama from a distance but when you zoom in (like the picture in my previous comment) he doesn't look like Osama.

Youtube video

We're gonna get another fake video like the one above.

[arista]

You can spend your Life
with Fake visions.


This thread is part of being Fake.

He is Dead
Now we Hunt Number 2

[Ammi]

I don't know if he's alive or dead but I don't believe what we're being told is what actually happened. What was the point of taking his body, presumably as proof of his death and then dumping it in the ocean. He may be dead but I don't believe it was this weekend in this way. I'm sure we'll have a huge Hollywood movie in the making soon showing how amazing the operation was, but in truth the Americans usually completely **** these things up.

[Judas]

Hmm, I never really believe these theories, and haven't paused to think about it deeply. It does seem very suspicious, surely they wouldn't be that bothered about following islamic burial traditions...

[Niamh.]

I smell a rat. Dumped his body at sea? no way, I don't buy it. I have no idea what did actually happen but I don't believe this.

[Barbie]

It for me was all fine until they buried his body at sea. Respect islamic laws when its Osama? come on! surely they wouldn't have cared too much about that side of things, also Saddam wasnt just buried at sea. That makes the whole thing suspicious. If it wasn't Osama then he will probably make another video or at least make it known he was alive, there wouldn't be much point in him just pretending to go along with it because if america didnt kill him then he will still be being hunted down surely?

[Tom4784]

I think he's dead, it would be a hugely risky lie that could blow up in America's face if he turned out to be alive. It's just too easy for something to go wrong to be a lie in my eyes.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think he's dead, it would be a hugely risky lie that could blow up in America's face if he turned out to be alive. It's just too easy for something to go wrong to be a lie in my eyes.

I do think he's dead, I just don't think it happened the way they say it did and maybe they still have his body or maybe that they have him but he's still alive..........-conspiracy theory overdrive-

[Grimnir]

sometimes people don't like to ask questions because they fear what the answer and the truth will be

if you have questions about the alleged "bin laden is DEAD" story then you should watch this video

Youtube video

then do some of your own research and watch the full movie and decide for yourself what is the truth and what is lies

[Niamh.]

Oh..I'm going to take a look at that on my lunch break Grimnir

[Jordan.]

I do believe he is dead but I don't believe fully what they said happened and how they got rid of his body.

Spend 10 years trying to find someone just to kill them and throw them in the sea, hmm.

[Niamh.]

Just watched that video grimnir, It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it were true.

[Locke.]

Obviously everything that has been said isn't true, nothing ever is. But Bin Laden is dead and the details don't really matter.

[GiRTh]

I'm starting to doubt this now. Apparently The Rock knew about this hous before any of the news networks. How can he have access to such top level information?

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...ith_urbahn.php

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment...bin_laden.html

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I'm starting to doubt this now. Apparently The Rock knew about this hous before any of the news networks. How can he have access to such top level information?

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...ith_urbahn.php

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment...bin_laden.html

Seriously? Wtf

[\PJ/]

We will never be told the full truth about anything, we are always kept in the dark, but I do think he is dead.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Seriously? Wtf

I know. Somethings not right about this.

[Scarlett.]

Obviously Bin Laden was killed earlier than we thought, which was to be expected anyway

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I guess his body was put in the sea so his followers wont worship his dead body.

I think as sick as it sounds at least have a photo of the body, not enough proof that he is dead.

[MTVN]

Well two reasons have been given for his burial at sea, the first one is that they didnt want his grave to become a shrine which makes sense, the other is that they didnt want to waste time negotiating with countries to bury him on their land, Islamic burials are meant to take place soon after the victim is dead and Saudi Arabia reportedly refused to take the body.

I dont necessarily completely swallow the official line, but I'm not going to insantly leap to some conspiracy theory based merely on a couple of suspicions. I'll reserve judgement, it's only been a day and a half or so since it happened, pointless trying to jump to conclusions now.