[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by InOne

I think it's bad, if a guy meets a girl at a club and she looks of age and ends up being 15 or something, and say she turns nasty and he get's charged that he is left with that label forever. Nobody seems to feel for a guy in that situation, they assume a poor little girl that was taken by a monster or something

That's a good argument InOne,really a 15 year old girl shouldn't be at a club anyway, I think a lot of things should come up in that scenario before charge.

Deeper investigation as was it really a rape or something that went wrong,as you say if he is told by her she is older,then he is not at fault for having sex with her,more interviews and better investigative procedures hopefully could bring more light on such a charge.

Why was she in a club at all, why did she go anywhere with him, did her parents know she was at a club,was she in contact with her parents or family,she must have said she was older to be in the club,so why the deceit.
That sort of reasoning could and should cast doubts on whether this is a legitimate rape case or not.

Maybe,if a much stronger penalty was in place for falsely accusing someone of rape,people may be less likely to cry rape when it wasn't so.

I agree, that's an awful situation for the hypothetical guy you mention to be in and scarred for life and equally that is why rape investigations, charges etc need to be even more investgative than they are now.
I also don't agree with a guys name plastered al over the media before his trial or conviction either, while the accuser remains anonymous,often even after the not guilty verdict is made.
Both should not be named until after the trial.If the guy was guilty he is named, if he's found not guilty they both are.To show he was falsely accused and she was as low as you can go.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

That's a good argument InOne,really a 15 year old girl shouldn't be at a club anyway, I think a lot of things should come up in that scenario before charge.

Deeper investigation as was it really a rape or something that went wrong,as you say if he is told by her she is older,then he is not at fault for having sex with her,more interviews and better investigative procedures hopefully could bring more light on such a charge.

Why was she in a club at all, why did she go anywhere with him, did her parents know she was at a club,was she in contact with her parents or family,she must have said she was older to be in the club,so why the deceit.
That sort of reasoning could and should cast doubts on whether this is a legitimate rape case or not.

Maybe,if a much stronger penalty was in place for falsely accusing someone of rape,people may be less likely to cry rape when it wasn't so.

I agree, that's an awful situation for the hypothetical guy you mention to be in and scarred for life and equally that is what rape investigations, charges etc need to be even more investgative than they are now.
I also don't agree with a guys name plastered al over the media before his trail or conviction either, while the accuser remains anonymous,often even after the not guilty verdict is made.
Both should not be named until after the trial.If the guy was guilty he is named, if he's found not guilty they both are.

BIB. 100% agree.

I had a friend (male) who was charged with rape. It didn't happen - he was engaged, with wedding date planned. A female neighbour - they had been friends since kids - she had a complete obsession with the guy. Long story short - he got duped into going round to her house on the pretext that there was something wrong with the cooker (her parents were on holiday) - he goes rund to help - she then going into hysterical mode saying she loved him, started grabbing him, clinging onto him sobbing - after a struggle, he gets free and bails out 2 hours later... the police arrest him (yes...arrest him) for rape.

It took months for it all for the truth to come out - she eventually 'cracked', confessed all and all charges were dropped.

In the meantime: this guy had his name plastered all over the local news, lost his job. In the meantime: her name was never printed (though everyone close, knew) He was one of these guys that you KNEW was telling he truth - his fiance, family and friends stuck by him and it all ended the right way - thanks to the police.

Took years for the 'gossip' to die down.

Worst part was: he was one of the kindest, quietest most caring guys around: and it took him years to get back to his old self again.

All through a jealous, mentally unstable 19 year old and her fantasy world.