[billy123]

If some people find the protestant irish antagonistic then before they can tackle it they need to get their own image of intimidation and violence under check before they can hold that up as a valid argument.
This is my last post on this matter as i have no wish to get into an argument over this matter on here as there is no happy medium.

Protestant irish celebrating who they are.

Youtube video

V the republican equivalent. (st patricks day celebration)

Youtube video

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by bobnot

If some people find the protestant irish antagonistic then before they can tackle it they need to get their own image of intimidation and violence under check before they can hold that up as a valid argument.
This is my last post on this matter as i have no wish to get into an argument over this matter on here.

Protestant irish celebrating who they are.

Youtube video

V the republican equivalent.

Youtube video

What an absolutely, breathtakingly ridiculous post! First off - the thread refers to SCOTTISH Protestants. Secondly, what exactly are you suggesting with the bit in bold? I'm going to come on the thread and call you a violent terrorist and then just piss off because I cannot back up my stupid point?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

What an absolutely, breathtakingly ridiculous post! First off - the thread refers to SCOTTISH Protestants. Secondly, what exactly are you suggesting with the bit in bold? I'm going to come on the thread and call you a violent terrorist and then just piss off because I cannot back up my stupid point?

This.

[Novo]

Originally Posted by bobnot

If some people find the protestant irish antagonistic then before they can tackle it they need to get their own image of intimidation and violence under check before they can hold that up as a valid argument.
This is my last post on this matter as i have no wish to get into an argument over this matter on here as there is no happy medium.

Protestant irish celebrating who they are.

Youtube video

V the republican equivalent. (st patricks day celebration)

Youtube video

Spot on

the way some people act you'd think there was full on riots at Orange walks.

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by Novo

Spot on

the way some people act you'd think there was full on riots at Orange walks.

Which do you think, honestly, lead to more violent conflict? St Patrick's Day Parades or Orange Order 'walks'?

[Novo]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

Which do you think, honestly, lead to more violent conflict? St Patrick's Day Parades or Orange Order 'walks'?

Roughly about the same depending where they are and who is there

so get your green tinted shades off.

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by Novo

Roughly about the same depending where they are and who is there

so get your green tinted shades off.

Why don't you try addressing the topic rather than the poster? Seeing as how St. Patrick's Day parade are held and enjoyed all over the world as a celebration, and Orange Order 'walks' are only held in the UK, your first sentence doesn't even make sense. How about some statistics or links demonstrating the cause and effect between St Patrick's Day parades and riots? What a complete load of nonsense

[Novo]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

Why don't you try addressing the topic rather than the poster? Seeing as how St. Patrick's Day parade are held and enjoyed all over the world as a celebration, and Orange Order 'walks' are only held in the UK, your first sentence doesn't even make sense. How about some statistics or links demonstrating the cause and effect between St Patrick's Day parades and riots? What a complete load of nonsense

It makes plenty of sense.. You get trouble on both days of the year depending where it's held and who is there like i said.. it's not to hard for you to understand is it? People don't like or celebrate St Patrick's day celebrations where i am from and the Orange Walks aren't welcomed in parts of Britain and Ireland.. and Orange Walks have been held in Australia before now to add to your " Orange Walks are only held in the UK " statement and it's pretty much always going to be around St Patrick's day and the Twelfth. So just let people enjoy it.. a bit of trouble here and there is going to happen on both sides that's why the police are there.

[Livia]

I can understand people wanting to retain their history and culture, but I'm sorry they can't find a way of doing it that isn't so disruptive and upsetting to the rest of the population. People have a right to march if they want to, but would they allow neo-Nazis to march through Muswell Hill? No, because it would be provocative. Would they let the BNP march down Brick Lane? No, because it would be provocative. I can't understand the mentality of people who want to cling on to something doggedly knowing that it will provoke confrontation.

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by Novo

It makes plenty of sense.. You get trouble on both days of the year depending where it's held and who is there like i said.. it's not to hard for you to understand is it? People don't like or celebrate St Patrick's day celebrations where i am from and the Orange Walks aren't welcomed in parts of Britain and Ireland.. and Orange Walks have been held in Australia before now to add to your " Orange Walks are only held in the UK " statement and it's pretty much always going to be around St Patrick's day and the Twelfth. So just let people enjoy it.. a bit of trouble here and there is going to happen on both sides that's why the police are there.

It's simply not true. There are riots after Orange parades because the parades aim to taunt and provoke. They feature men and teenage boys banging drums in uniforms. St Patrick's Day parades, on the other hand, feature men women and children of all ages, with humorous, cultural floats, dancing and athletic groups, community organisations, participants from any enthnic, age or culture group who want to get involved. They are purposely INCLUSIVE. And kudos if there were a couple of Orange walks in Australia - there are, however, St Patrick's Day parades, as I said, all over the world. There is absolutely no logical comparison between the two.

[keithafc]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

Which do you think, honestly, lead to more violent conflict? St Patrick's Day Parades or Orange Order 'walks'?

The vast vast majority of them pass off peacefully. The majority of them around the 12th or 13th end up going to a field and playing traditional music.

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by keithafc

The vast vast majority of them pass off peacefully. The majority of them around the 12th or 13th end up going to a field and playing traditional music.

Listen, I wasn't the one who brought the absolutely laugh out loud comparison between Orange Parades and St Patrick's Day parades into the thread. I'm delighted to hear MOST of them pass off peacefully. Quite a significant number of them don't. The only problem at Paddy's Day parade are drunken idiots losing the run of themselves - which happens at any large public event. The discussion was about the 'intent' of an Orange parade; particularly when the route is targetted to cause upset.