[Zippy]

The black population of the UK is just 2%.The black population of Americas is about 13%. Blacks are the second biggest racial group there. Numbers equals power. Over 95% of blacks voted Obama to victory, for example.

Black people did not really start to populate this country significantly until post second world war. But in America they have had a significant presence for hundreds of years. Even back in the 18th century they made up a massive 20% of the US population. Yes, largely due to slavery for the most part but it's still a presence. But as a result of slavery they have had a very long running succession of laws and regulations put in place to protect their rights. The UK or other European countries cannot compete with that foundation or history.

And it wasnt until very recently that blacks got a foothold in power; the first elected governor wasn't until 1989. That's a long long wait to be acknowledged considering they are the 2nd biggest racial group. As for Barack, well here's his mother;



that must have been one hell of a flash to make her look white. Oh wait, she is white!

And if you wanna pretend that America is now some idealistic wonderland of racial harmony then..GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! Try googling the words race, America, inequality, ghetto, low pay, poverty, crime, statistics, education. Happy reading.

Then go view the LA riots on youtube. Makes the UK riots look like a teddy bears picnic. The Uk riots were not race on race.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Zippy

And if you wanna pretend that America is now some idealistic wonderland of racial harmony then..GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! Try googling the words race, America, inequality, ghetto, low pay, poverty, crime, statistics, education. Happy reading.

Then go view the LA riots on youtube. Makes the UK riots look like a teddy bears picnic. The Uk riots were not race on race.

I disagree on all counts. Googling race in America, first of all google anything ab out America and you will find more articles, simply because the US media is far larger and more sophisticated than any other country, also because America talks about race and analyzes itself more than other country. No other country is as self-reflective as America, we are constantly studying ourselves, no other country puts more money and resources into studying itself.

Foreign people complain about the fact that America is too insular, and Americans only know about America, and don't focus much on the rest of the world, well maybe other countries should start analyzing themselves and talking about themselves more like America does. If they did, i think they'd find the same problems in their own backyard.

Instead they'd rather just focus on America, and ignore their own problems. It's easy to forget your own problems when you are more interested in Britney Spears' problems.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I disagree on all counts. Googling race in America, first of all google anything ab out America and you will find more articles, simply because the US media is far larger and more sophisticated than any other country, also because America talks about race and analyzes itself more than other country. No other country is as self-reflective as America, we are constantly studying ourselves, no other country puts more money and resources into studying itself.

Foreign people complain about the fact that America is too insular, and Americans only know about America, and don't focus much on the rest of the world, well maybe other countries should start analyzing themselves and talking about themselves more like America does. If they did, i think they'd find the same problems in their own backyard.

Instead they'd rather just focus on America, and ignore their own problems. It's easy to forget your own problems when you are more interested in Britney Spears' problems.

Very good analysis, I never thought about the insular thing, but its a good point. ANd every other country is kind of obsessed with america.

Another problem with that is, unless you actually live somewhere, you dont really know how the people really are. To me, the way they portray america, or americans in the press here, is nothing like when you meet or live with the average american. I have always found them very caring, welcoming, and good in general. They also are a lot more religious than Europeans, which can explain certain things.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I disagree on all counts. Googling race in America, first of all google anything ab out America and you will find more articles, simply because the US media is far larger and more sophisticated than any other country, also because America talks about race and analyzes itself more than other country. No other country is as self-reflective as America, we are constantly studying ourselves, no other country puts more money and resources into studying itself.

Foreign people complain about the fact that America is too insular, and Americans only know about America, and don't focus much on the rest of the world, well maybe other countries should start analyzing themselves and talking about themselves more like America does. If they did, i think they'd find the same problems in their own backyard.

Instead they'd rather just focus on America, and ignore their own problems. It's easy to forget your own problems when you are more interested in Britney Spears' problems.

Well most of this is a Captain obvious moment.

Yeah yeah, trust me, we're all very aware of how Americans just love to talk about themselves. And analyse themselves round and round in circles until theyre even more screwed up than they were to begin with. Does it solve your problems? No!

And I never said anything about the amount of articles to be found on Google. I was just pointing towards all the info highlighting the issues in America. If you want to act like theyve all been solved then you a crazy bitch. Its not even just about blacks; there are huge issues with hispanics and Asians. They don't all get along with each other. Then there's the whole other issue of black on black crime.

The USA black prison population % is 5 times the black nationl population. But yeah, you got it all sussed.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Its not even just about blacks; there are huge issues with hispanics and Asians. They don't all get along with each other. Then there's the whole other issue of black on black crime.

The USA black prison population % is 5 times the black nationl population. But yeah, you got it all sussed.

Hispanic is not a race, most latin Americans are White/European decent, Asians are doing fine, in fact actually Asians are doing even better than the average white/european American, infact there is actually a disproportionately HIGH amount of asians in the US University system. so i don't know what you're talking about.

You wanna talk about disproprtionate prison populations, why don't you talk about the first nations proportion in Canadian prisons, or about the same disproportions in UK prisons and all across europe. or about the disproportionate number of Aborigionals in Australian prisons? Why are you singling out America?

Oh wait, you prolly don't know about that, cause yur only interested in and focused on America, you actually havn't looked at the proportions of OTHER countries, have you?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Zippy

And it wasnt until very recently that blacks got a foothold in power; the first elected governor wasn't until 1989. That's a long long wait to be acknowledged considering they are the 2nd biggest racial group.

Just out of curiosity, what year was the first black MP elected? ( I know it's not comperable because US governors are not the same as MP's, MP's are more like US congressmen, when was the first US black congressman elected?)

You're post is not very complete when it comes to viewing things in relativity. It would be nice if you put your comments into some kind of context.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Just out of curiosity, what year was the first black MP elected? ( I know it's not comperable because US governors are not the same as MP's, MP's are more like US congressmen, when was the first US black congressman elected?)

You're post is not very complete when it comes to viewing things in relativity. It would be nice if you put your comments into some kind of context.

We had an Asian MP in 1892

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

We had an Asian MP in 1892

Care to elaborate? lol what a minimalist post.