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bbfan1991 · 04-09-2011, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

He sounds Irish, HE IS Irish they said on BOTS and he uses the word Craic in every sentence - he's Irish.

Paddy was born in Manchester, he said so on MBFGW and I heard he had never been to Ireland either

. His parents are obviously Irish travellers and he moved around so didn't develop a Manchester accent.

▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲ · 04-09-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

He sounds Irish, HE IS Irish they said on BOTS and he uses the word Craic in every sentence - he's Irish.

Born in England, British passport, British citizen, English Birth cert. never lived in Ireland= English.

Having grown up around Irish travellers and from coming from traveller stock myself, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt he is not Irish.

Believe it or not there is a small cultural difference between Irish travellers and English travellers, even their accent is different to ours, not by much but it is different.

Pyramid* · 04-09-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

He sounds Irish, HE IS Irish they said on BOTS and he uses the word Craic in every sentence - he's Irish.

Well this is gonna throw your theory to hell.... I use the word craic often too, and I'm NOT Irish.

CaudleHalbard · 04-09-2011, 04:02 PM

Apart from being called Paddy and using the word craic, there's nothing Irish about him. His ancestry may indeed be Irish but he himself is British.

Pyramid* · 04-09-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲

This is absolutely DISGUSTING, what are you implying?

I suppose you think all gay people are paedophiles and all black people love chicken....etc etc.

Niamh, I am actually shocked that you, a member of TiBB staff, would use such a nasty stereotype.

I don't know you and never interacted with you, but I have no problem saying that you are a DISGUSTING individual, or maybe you were just drunk when you made that post....

Sorry ▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲; but where on earth did you ever pick that one up as stereotypical behaviour? Never heard that one in my puff.

Vicky. · 04-09-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmarky

Will stick a fresh clip up - this happened at 2.39am so should make tonight's show

Ahh good to know

I wonder why lucien said sorry about last night though...unless I heard that wrong

Pyramid* · 04-09-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ahh good to know

I wonder why lucien said sorry about last night though...unless I heard that wrong

I'm pretty sure he said, "sorry about the incident last night" or "sorry about the eggs last night" when he was in the bathroom?

Vicky. · 04-09-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well if the plan was to try and cover something up they wouldn't have showed the egg fight on BBOTS, would they?

The cynical side of me last night was thinking that they showed it on BBOTS so that when the series is over, if this gets mentioned, they can say they DID show it somewhere. They are well aware not many people watch BBOTS. And I dont think they want jedward shown in a light other than the cheery hyper robots that they portray them as

However, if it did happen last night, it might and probably will be shown tonight.

CaudleHalbard · 04-09-2011, 04:29 PM

I suspect viewing figures may be up tonight!

▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲ · 04-09-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Sorry ▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲; but where on earth did you ever pick that one up as stereotypical behaviour? Never heard that one in my puff.

I actually got that from a Katt Stevens DVD I watched last week, chicken and watermelon is the stereotype apparently.

Stu · 04-09-2011, 04:34 PM

Are you saying not all black people love their chicken?

Come on now.

Vicky. · 04-09-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲

I don't know you and never interacted with you, but I have no problem saying that you are a DISGUSTING individual, or maybe you were just drunk when you made that post....

I think this is a step too far and would remind you not to make personal insults towards people on here, be they staff or members. I believe niamh just got a little over protective in her defence for the boys and probably didnt think of how much of a stereotype this was.

I do agree with the rest of your post though. If such stereotypes were made against any other minority groups there would be absolute hell on.

bbfan1991 · 04-09-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

The cynical side of me last night was thinking that they showed it on BBOTS so that when the series is over, if this gets mentioned, they can say they DID show it somewhere. They are well aware not many people watch BBOTS. And I dont think they want jedward shown in a light other than the cheery hyper robots that they portray them as

However, if it did happen last night, it might and probably will be shown tonight.

BB have shown both the good and bad sides to Jedward, so I do hope it's shown if it happened yesterday but the editing has been weird on a few instances for all housemates

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Vicky. · 04-09-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bbfan1991

BB have shown both the good and bad sides to Jedward, so I do hope it's shown if it happened yesterday but the editing has been weird on a few instances for all housemates

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Really? All I have seen is them being all hyper.

I have yet to see an episode where they are just normal. This was more my point than them not showing a bad side...they want them to appear as hyperactive robots 24/7...when I very much doubt that this is the case

Pyramid* · 04-09-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲

I actually got that from a Katt Stevens DVD I watched last week, chicken and watermelon is the stereotype apparently.

Cat Stevens aka Yusuf Islam, former English musician from the 70's?

I've never heard that comparison before: and more than that: if it's the Cat Stevens I think you mean: he converted to a faith that is more well known within the Arab world, which is something totally different from cultures /race that the word 'Blacks' may refer to (ie: those of African descent).

Now i'm even more confused by the use of phrase!!

CaudleHalbard · 04-09-2011, 04:40 PM

Jerk Chicken is a West Indian dish and I suspect the association comes from that.

Pyramid* · 04-09-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Really? All I have seen is them being all hyper.

I have yet to see an episode where they are just normal. This was more my point than them not showing a bad side...they want them to appear as hyperactive robots 24/7...when I very much doubt that this is the case

got to say that from what I've seen on the Jedward act: it's been the manic, shouting, screaming, running about daft, being obnoxious, being a nuisance and generally as if they've been fed on nothing but speed for the past 2 weeks.

Stu · 04-09-2011, 04:42 PM

Youtube video

▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲ · 04-09-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Cat Stevens aka Yusuf Islam, former English musician from the 70's?

I've never heard that comparison before: and more than that: if it's the Cat Stevens I think you mean: he converted to a faith that is more well known within the Arab world, which is something totally different from cultures /race that the word 'Blacks' may refer to (ie: those of African descent).

Now i'm even more confused by the use of phrase!!

Ohhh crap, I meant to say KATT WILLIAMS, woops lol. He is an American comedian.
My bad, sorry bout that

Pyramid* · 04-09-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Jerk Chicken is a West Indian dish and I suspect the association comes from that.

bingo..... of course !! Caribbean .... should have engaged brain before posting! It was the Cat Stevens reference to it that really threw me off kilter!

bbfan1991 · 04-09-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Really? All I have seen is them being all hyper.

I have yet to see an episode where they are just normal. This was more my point than them not showing a bad side...they want them to appear as hyperactive robots 24/7...when I very much doubt that this is the case

The wedgie incident, trashing the house and using other peoples stuff without asking etc.

I don't know if the twins would have went in as just John and Edward but since Jedward is their brand from a business point of view and managed that is what C5 had booked them for because of their ability to divide opinion and annoy

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Pyramid* · 04-09-2011, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲

Ohhh crap, I meant to say KATT WILLIAMS, woops lol. He is an American comedian.
My bad, sorry bout that

the bloody bother cats can cause !!!

totally get it now and makes more sense !!! lol

Pyramid* · 04-09-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bbfan1991

The wedgie incident, trashing the house and using other peoples stuff without asking etc.

I don't know if the twins would have went in as just John and Edward but since Jedward is their brand from a business point of view and managed that is what C5 had booked them for because of their ability to divide opinion and annoy

.

And by God.....they are succeeding !!

Stu · 04-09-2011, 04:47 PM

The West Indian dish stereotype isin't where the association comes from at all. It's more of an American stereotype rooted in deep south racism that's become in recent times a kind of meme/bait/cultural joke poked fun at.

CaudleHalbard · 04-09-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

And by God.....they are succeeding !!

So long as it means more viewers rather than less, BB will be delighted with Jedward.

I still have a strong suspicion that Jedward are tacitly encouraged to be as manic as possible.

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