[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well ok, I don't see any really thoughful responces to change my mind so I like Jay as for now, so I'll stick with what I said. He's so sweet the way he talks to Louise I think he's really romantic too he just needs a good feminine touch to help bring him out of his shell

You're really funny, I'll give you that!

[tweetypiebabe1]

I'm with you. I like Jay. He's done nothing, or at least they've shown nothing for me to think otherwise about him or to question his character.

Yea I know he has done a LOT of sexual stuff and has had many experiences BUT he's a young lad who comes from a culture where things like that are accepted whether the majority of people outside of his culture thinks it's right or not.

He's been a caring housemate and friend to those in the house. He's not caused unnecessary drama and he keeps **** real. Most importantly he treats everyone with respect, especially the females and he can recognize which girls are DTF and which girls or proper lasses. Whether that's really him or not, that's what's been presented on the show.

[Jackie]

Is he not what i read in other thread hes not hes totally disgusting if this is true.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

there must be Jay fans out there he's one of the favourites to win as far as I know

I do actually agree, I think he is quite humble, I know he talks a lot about women but he's very honest about his intelligence (or lack of) and he does seem quite down to earth, not interested in just getting 5 minutes of fame or anything like that. He doesn't really bitch and stir much either, keeps out of arguments and is just generally a laid back bloke. He might be a bit vulgar but he's just having a laugh and a bit of fun really

[Suze]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

he seems really honest and genuine, and humble too if a bit gross at times

BIB understatement much

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by tweetypiebabe1

I'm with you. I like Jay. He's done nothing, or at least they've shown nothing for me to think otherwise about him or to question his character.

Yea I know he has done a LOT of sexual stuff and has had many experiences BUT he's a young lad who comes from a culture where things like that are accepted whether the majority of people outside of his culture thinks it's right or not.

He's been a caring housemate and friend to those in the house. He's not caused unnecessary drama and he keeps **** real. Most importantly he treats everyone with respect, especially the females and he can recognize which girls are DTF and which girls or proper lasses. Whether that's really him or not, that's what's been presented on the show.

Sorry, but Jay has shown NO respect for women from what I have heard,infact I had to read that line again just to make sure that is what you said,I admit he has not been a s**t stirrer but seems he's done other things with it!!a proper lass to Jay is one he can s**g on tap.

[fruit_cake]

the 'no' respect for women argument is a bit of a red herring in my opinion. He's always there for the people who he cares about, and even when he obviously can't stand someone, like Heaven, he still tries to think of a good thing to say.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I do actually agree, I think he is quite humble, I know he talks a lot about women but he's very honest about his intelligence (or lack of) and he does seem quite down to earth, not interested in just getting 5 minutes of fame or anything like that. He doesn't really bitch and stir much either, keeps out of arguments and is just generally a laid back bloke. He might be a bit vulgar but he's just having a laugh and a bit of fun really

yes that's what I think too

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

the 'no' respect for women argument is a bit of a red herring in my opinion. He's always there for the people who he cares about, and even when he obviously can't stand someone, like Heaven, he still tries to think of a good thing to say.

That's a contradictory statement there. If is there for the people who he cares about, even when he obviously couldn't stand someone like Heaven, why would he think of a good thing to say about that person then.... given that one doesn't care for people they cannot stand.

so what you are saying really is that he's a hyocrite. I'd agree to that.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by tweetypiebabe1

I'm with you. I like Jay. He's done nothing, or at least they've shown nothing for me to think otherwise about him or to question his character.

Yea I know he has done a LOT of sexual stuff and has had many experiences BUT he's a young lad who comes from a culture where things like that are accepted whether the majority of people outside of his culture thinks it's right or not.

He's been a caring housemate and friend to those in the house. He's not caused unnecessary drama and he keeps **** real. Most importantly he treats everyone with respect, especially the females and he can recognize which girls are DTF and which girls or proper lasses. Whether that's really him or not, that's what's been presented on the show.

yes again, that's what I've come to see too. He's had a bad press but he's coming through now as real top bloke imo

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

That's a contradictory statement there. If is there for the people who he cares about, even when he obviously couldn't stand someone like Heaven, why would he think of a good thing to say about that person then.... given that one doesn't care for people they cannot stand.

so what you are saying really is that he's a hyocrite. I'd agree to that.

please don't try to tell me what I'm saying, I can speak for myself tyvm

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

please don't try to tell me what I'm saying, I can speak for myself tyvm

I didn't try to tell you what you are saying. I'm pointing out the contradictory nature of what you said- simply because you initial points are made nul and void by your latter points.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I didn't try to tell you what you are saying. I'm pointing out the contradictory nature of what you said- simply because you initial points are made nul and void by your latter points.

yeah whatever

[fruit_cake]

Jay would look great on the dancefloor he's got the body would be centre of attention

[Angus]

He has one redeeming feature - he disliked Rebeckah so he can't be completely stupid.

[Jords]

I like him a lot from the HLs, dislike the rumours I hear about him though!

[Foebane100]

Sorry no way that anyone who has slept with over 1000 women, as he claimed can be a genuine lovely bloke, he is obviously a player.

[Jedwardhater]

I find it very funny that ch5 edited out Jay pulling the love hearts out from his hoop before lining them up under the pillow.Nice edit ch5.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by tweetypiebabe1

Yea I know he has done a LOT of sexual stuff and has had many experiences BUT he's a young lad who comes from a culture where things like that are accepted whether the majority of people outside of his culture thinks it's right or not.

I've studied many very different and bizarre "cultures" but never in my life, in any of them, have I seen '****ting in a deep freeze' regarded as normal.

[Jedwardhater]

After Jay 'claimed' to have had sex with over 1000 females including two lady boys i am very surprised that none of them have been on the forum or any other site to post about it. Or maybe he was just telling porky pies??????

[flamingGalah!]

OP is hilarious, first Rebeckah, now Jay

Very clever choice of username too

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I've studied many very different and bizarre "cultures" but never in my life, in any of them, have I seen '****ting in a deep freeze' regarded as normal.

Im actually quite offended that people think us in newcastle are really gross enough to consider ****ting in the freezer and smearing vagina fluids on faces to blowdry 'normal for our culture'

[Beso]

ex football hooligan.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Im actually quite offended that people think us in newcastle are really gross enough to consider ****ting in the freezer and smearing vagina fluids on faces to blowdry 'normal for our culture'

Now you know what it feels like when us Essex girls are pigeon holed

[Lister of Smeg]

i like Jay hes laid back always has time for others and is sweet i feel bad for Aaron hes got the starter Jay looks set to get the main course