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Originally Posted by Vicky.

I dont get this bit. Heaven would say Jay was great if she liked him regardless of if she knew it was edited out or not, surely She lived with him.

The nominations thing, doesnt hold much weight with me at all. As thats easily manipulated too. They might have tried to nom him for it and be told its not valid. (Not basing this on rebeckahs claims that this happened with the fisting thing though)

IMO people are just used to him having very vile moments. Thats why it didnt change too many peoples opinions on him...along with heaven saying it was a 'prank'. I also think they are a little scared of him anyway. The BB house is different to outside, they kinda have to just get on with it.


The main thing thats standing out to me though, is c5 not denying it. Its not for the media attention (all publicity is good publicity etc.) because the papers dont give a crap about BB anymore. And surely if it didnt happen, they would say so, as allowing people to think it did is tarnishing jays reputation...the fact that he is gross to start with is irrelevant, something as big as this will send peoples opinions on him through the floor. I noticed the 'hate' for Jay pick up a lot quicker after the freezer thing came to light. If its untrue, its unfair of them to allow people to think it IS true. If it was not true, Im nearly 100% sure that the interviewer who was speaking to heaven would have reacted in SHOCK...as would anyone who heard such a random thing, rather than just say allegedly. Do you not think thats quite odd? Say it didnt happen, and that mole dude knew nothing about it...and someone just randomly says that someone **** in the freezer, would the natural reaction not be WTF? The excuse they gave for his 'allegedly' comments was weak too...they said allegedly because Jay wasnt there to defend himself? Against what?

My point with Heaven is that she clearly wasn't really appalled by it, the whole thing just seemed to her to have been a bit irritating. That's what I find strange, that none of the housemates seem to consider it something that would change their opinion or make them think any less of him, you were saying that it might have done and it would have been edited out but then Heaven had no knowledge of any editing by BB at that stage. Not sure if that makes sense

Yeah it's true they might have said that nominating him specifically for "****ting in a freezer" wasn't valid but I'm sure that if a housemate did just try and nominate him for being generally disgusting then they wouldn't have said it was invalid. We've seen enough crude stuff that Jay's done for the public to think no more about it if someone did nominate him for that, his w**king contest with Mark for example, and shaving his arse

To be honest if it did happen I'd say it's likely to have been a dare during a drunken night or something like that. I'm not saying that Jay didn't do it but that the whole thing is a bit strange and what you said about C5 not denying it just makes it even more weird. And yeah the interviewer did about the worst thing he could have done by just repeating "allegedly" over and over again/ There is a lot we don't know about this story and I don't think we will know what really happened until Jay's out the house