[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Aaron sealed the deal as a tosser for me when he walked out in the middle of messages from home being read that was so disrespectful it is unforgiveable.

Yeah, that was just childish and rude. I hate when he sulks. Even Alex, who likes him, gave him a vote for the first time due to his sulk which lasted a whole day.

[LivT]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

I'm not a huge Jay fan but he has been romantic and he is clearly besotted with Louise and vice versa.

Oh, I'm not negating the fact there is mutual adoration on Jay and Lou's behalf. More outlining the fact that someone had implied that Jay's methods of seduction were the right way to treat a woman, thus implying further that Aarons were not.


I rather suspect that once Aaron is no longer withi the confines of the BB house he would feel more comfortable to express himself more in that depratment. Jay's methods, on the other hand, will remain within the boundaries of a "bit of rough" Different strokes for different folks

[karezza]

1. Big Brother has been mistreating Aaron
2. Faye has been mistreating Aaron
3. Justin has been mistreating the freezer
4. Jem has been mistreating Faye

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by LivT

Oh, I'm not negating the fact there is mutual adoration on Jay and Lou's behalf. More outlining the fact that someone had implied that Jay's methods of seduction were the right way to treat a woman, thus implying further that Aarons were not.


I rather suspect that once Aaron is no longer withi the confines of the BB house he would feel more comfortable to express himself more in that depratment. Jay's methods, on the other hand, will remain within the boundaries of a "bit of rough" Different strokes for different folks

Maybe, but I still think Jay cares about Louise much more than Aaron cares for Faye.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Maybe, but I still think Jay cares about Louise much more than Aaron cares for Faye.

I reckon Jay cannot believe his luck that he's managed to find a good looking woman with a great body, yet is as undignified as him and even finds his disgusting habits endearing.

Aaron, to me, seems very guarded when it comes to emotions and feelings, but just because he isn't dry humping Faye at night, it writing super cringey messages for her, doesn't mean he hasn't got feelings for her.

Everybody's different, and not everybody is completely at ease with showing their inner feelings.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

After fully thinking about this matter after several threads were started today about this, I have come up with a list of very clear reasons why people think Aaron is mistreating Faye.

1: He does not follow her round every second of every day telling how wonderful and beautiful she is.
2: He does not like people burping in his face.
3: He does not like peoples sisters burping in his face.
4: He prefers to go off in a strop after a disagreement, rather than being a man, having a huge argument and then going have wild make up sex.
5: He doesn't write love messages in either of the following, love hearts, kitchen foil, toilet paper, blood, faeces
6: He does not pander to her drama queen tantrums.
7: When she says "lets just be friends" he agrees rather than dropping to his knees and begging her to reconsider.
8: He is not romantic, as he does not build love forts or talk about sex 24/7.
9: He dares to hug her and simply kiss her instead of ripping her clothes off at any given opportunity.
10: He dares to tell her when she's acting childish or out of order.
11. He thinks that he should be able to shave without consulting her first.
12. He does not try to interrupt her conversations and then storm off when he does not succeed. Like a real partner should.

I must admit that lightening just kinda struck me while watching tonights episode and it suddenly all made perfect sense, I cant believe I did not see this sooner. What a horrible man he is indeed. Had me well and truly fooled.

I challenge anyone to disagree with any of my solid reasons.

The man is clearly a monster.

Vocky....how blind we have been....well put together lol

[Blink_Me]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Aaron sealed the deal as a tosser for me when he walked out in the middle of messages from home being read that was so disrespectful it is unforgiveable.

I think we need to add you to the Aaron fan club.

[rusticgal]

On a serious note....major respect to Aaron....he must hav so wanted to say something to Jem when she was cheering at every vote against him. However showing great respect for Faye...he said nothing.

The Palmer family should read all these points that show Aaron to be a totally respectful human being....and instead of messing with Fayes head he has been totally respectful to your family despite the bitter accusations made against him by Jem...the boyfriend and Fayes beloved mum...you are the ones who have messed with Fayes head...not Aaron.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

On a serious note....major respect to Aaron....he must hav so wanted to say something to Jem when she was cheering at every vote against him. However showing great respect for Faye...he said nothing.

The Palmer family should read all these points that show Aaron to be a totally respectful human being....and instead of messing with Fayes head he has been totally respectful to your family despite the bitter accusations made against him by Jem...the boyfriend and Fayes beloved mum...you are the ones who have messed with Fayes head...not Aaron.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Great post, well put.

And great thread Vicky

[robb]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

After fully thinking about this matter after several threads were started today about this, I have come up with a list of very clear reasons why people think Aaron is mistreating Faye.

1: He does not follow her round every second of every day telling how wonderful and beautiful she is.
2: He does not like people burping in his face.
3: He does not like peoples sisters burping in his face.
4: He prefers to go off in a strop after a disagreement, rather than being a man, having a huge argument and then going have wild make up sex.
5: He doesn't write love messages in either of the following, love hearts, kitchen foil, toilet paper, blood, faeces
6: He does not pander to her drama queen tantrums.
7: When she says "lets just be friends" he agrees rather than dropping to his knees and begging her to reconsider.
8: He is not romantic, as he does not build love forts or talk about sex 24/7.
9: He dares to hug her and simply kiss her instead of ripping her clothes off at any given opportunity.
10: He dares to tell her when she's acting childish or out of order.
11. He thinks that he should be able to shave without consulting her first.
12. He does not try to interrupt her conversations and then storm off when he does not succeed. Like a real partner should.

I must admit that lightening just kinda struck me while watching tonights episode and it suddenly all made perfect sense, I cant believe I did not see this sooner. What a horrible man he is indeed. Had me well and truly fooled.

I challenge anyone to disagree with any of my solid reasons.

The man is clearly a monster.

So, in a sentence, you fancy Aaron but don't like Jay. Ok, we get it

[Tourmaline]

ooooh the swine.....let me at him

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by robb

So, in a sentence, you fancy Aaron but don't like Jay. Ok, we get it

Next she'll be jealous of Louise

[MeMyselfAndI]

Vicky ignore the haters, the viewers were making out that Aaron has mistreated her. If anything she has mistreated him with her mood swings & ending their releationship constantly & doing vile things like burping at him & nominating him 3 times.

Reality is neither of them has mistreated each other & people are just hating for no reason.

[LivT]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Maybe, but I still think Jay cares about Louise much more than Aaron cares for Faye.

You cannot take a yard stick and measure someones feelings

On the subject of this, my opine is completely different...and so is my view point. Aaron and Faye's relationship, although filled with complexity, has much substance and depth. You have two reasonably intelligent people who are capable of these dynamics...as opposed to the simplicity of Jay and Louise' relationship...which consits mainly of them, quite happily, thriving on lust and mutual banal conversation.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LivT

You cannot take a yard stick and measure someones feelings

On the subject of this, my opine is completely different...and so is my view point. Aaron and Faye's relationship, although filled with complexity, has much substance and depth. You have two reasonably intelligent people who are capable of these dynamics...as opposed to the simplicity of Jay and Louise' relationship...which consits mainly of them, quite happily, thriving on lust and mutual banal conversation.

I agree with this. Jay is ecstatic that someone as fit as Louise fancies him, this is the message I get from their "relationship"

[jo1791]

Aaron and Jay are so different, Faye can't expect him to be the same with her as Jay is with Louise.

I think Faye is being silly to compare the two relationships.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jo1791

Aaron and Jay are so different, Faye can't expect him to be the same with her as Jay is with Louise.

I think Faye is being silly to compare the two relationships.

Yeah, absolutely.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

After fully thinking about this matter after several threads were started today about this, I have come up with a list of very clear reasons why people think Aaron is mistreating Faye.

1: He does not follow her round every second of every day telling how wonderful and beautiful she is.
2: He does not like people burping in his face.
3: He does not like peoples sisters burping in his face.
4: He prefers to go off in a strop after a disagreement, rather than being a man, having a huge argument and then going have wild make up sex.
5: He doesn't write love messages in either of the following, love hearts, kitchen foil, toilet paper, blood, faeces
6: He does not pander to her drama queen tantrums.
7: When she says "lets just be friends" he agrees rather than dropping to his knees and begging her to reconsider.
8: He is not romantic, as he does not build love forts or talk about sex 24/7.
9: He dares to hug her and simply kiss her instead of ripping her clothes off at any given opportunity.
10: He dares to tell her when she's acting childish or out of order.
11. He thinks that he should be able to shave without consulting her first.
12. He does not try to interrupt her conversations and then storm off when he does not succeed. Like a real partner should.

I must admit that lightening just kinda struck me while watching tonights episode and it suddenly all made perfect sense, I cant believe I did not see this sooner. What a horrible man he is indeed. Had me well and truly fooled.

I challenge anyone to disagree with any of my solid reasons.

The man is clearly a monster.

Vicky you're such a tease,I saw this thread and thought,God,what's he done now"

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I reckon Jay cannot believe his luck that he's managed to find a good looking woman with a great body, yet is as undignified as him and even finds his disgusting habits endearing.

Aaron, to me, seems very guarded when it comes to emotions and feelings, but just because he isn't dry humping Faye at night, it writing super cringey messages for her, doesn't mean he hasn't got feelings for her.

Everybody's different, and not everybody is completely at ease with showing their inner feelings.

I am far from at ease showing my real inner feelings, I sidestep loads of the time. In somewhere like the BB house with the cameras I would be likely far worse so I can relate to Aaron on that.

[fruit_cake]

there are so many people trying to break them up I hope they stay together and stick two fingers up to the world

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

missing from the list

1 he declared his undying love for Faye only to jump into bed with her best friend in front of her eyes 10 minutes later!

2 then he kissed Tom and led him on leading to absolutely nothing, just like Maisy. Faye was watching this wondering er... this guy what IS he doing??

3 he told Rebeckah how much he liked her only to say how much he disliked her in a bully like way behind her back to the rest of the housemates. Faye was watching this too.

If that's a normal way a totally trustworthy person acts I must be missing something. Faye had every right to be suspicious of him and given her family background it's not surprising as everyone seems to be out to get her for their own selfish benefits.

Ummm ok then...

1) He never declared his 'undying love' for Faye, he said he fancied her & she never said she liked him back. So when Maisy showed interest, he snogged her. Big deal. He was a completely free agent & he is not psychic...

2) He actually kissed Tom first, FOR A BLOODY DARE FFS! He is no way, shape or form lead Tom on. If being friendly to someone is 'leading them on' then I really should start to be nastier to people, just so they don't get the wrong idea... And Maisy wasn't lead on either! She only wanted a snog, she didn't want to marry him! LOL!!

3) Yes he told Rebeckah he liked her & then told people to be wary of her, for a bloody good reason! SHE WAS A BITCH!! And Aaron had her sussed from the word go. And please stop with the bully crap, Rebeckah was the bloody bully in there..

So yes I'd say Aaron has acted in a very trustworthy way, unlike Faye, who played games with Aaron, which lead to him snogging Maisy & her turning into a crazed bunny boiler... Oh & of course HER nominating him more than once! That doesn't seem trustworthy AT ALL does it?

[fruit_cake]

you don't have to agree with what I say but lots of Aaron's fanbase keep saying how Aaron has NOT mistreated Faye and so I am helping them to see the otherview points that clearly Louise, Alex and Faye's mum all see.

If you don't want to hear it, that's different, but you can't pretend there are not perfectly valid reasons for Faye's mistrust.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

you don't have to agree with what I say but lots of Aaron's fanbase keep saying how Aaron has NOT mistreated Faye and so I am helping them to see the otherview points that clearly Louise, Alex and Faye's mum all see.

If you don't want to hear it, that's different, but you can't pretend there are not perfectly valid reasons for Faye's mistrust.

But those points you made are simply not true! LOL

Faye's Mum is just a controlling witch, just like Jem & the others have probably been chatting to each other... It's purely tactical I feel

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

But those points you made are simply not true! LOL

Faye's Mum is just a controlling witch, just like Jem & the others have probably been chatting to each other... It's purely tactical I feel

Faye's mum is tactically voting? how do you work that one out? Tactically voting for favourite daughter Jem of course

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

you don't have to agree with what I say but lots of Aaron's fanbase keep saying how Aaron has NOT mistreated Faye and so I am helping them to see the otherview points that clearly Louise, Alex and Faye's mum all see.

If you don't want to hear it, that's different, but you can't pretend there are not perfectly valid reasons for Faye's mistrust.

I don't think he's mis treated her anymore than she has him, they're both sulky at times, that's about it as far as I can see. The whole Maisy/Tom thing happened before Faye decided to tell Aaron how she felt about him and he hasn't looked at another person in that way since then