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Are you inferring here MTVN that my own view is not also based on logic and common sense - and rather than you simply disagreeing with my view: you are completely disrespecting it?. If you could clarify please.
I think that, in my mind, to hold a dogmatic adherence to "the facts" would be a bit foolish in this instance considering that, what I consider to be logic and common sense would lead most to believe it much more likely that it was a simple misspelling, as is a frequent occurrence in Jay's tweets
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I think that, in my mind, to hold a dogmatic adherence to "the facts" would be a bit foolish in this instance considering that, what I consider to be logic and common sense would lead most to believe it much more likely that it was a simple misspelling, as is a frequent occurrence in Jay's tweets
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It this some indication here that the view held by youself and MTVN are the only views that are to be accepted on this thread?
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It this some indication here that the view held by youself and MTVN are the only views that are to be accepted on this thread?
Nope, it's an indication that I agree with MTVNs view, is that alright with you?
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Look, as far as I can see the only reason to think that he meant "sham" was that there is no "e" on the end of the way he spelt it, whereas there are plenty of reasons to think that he did indeed mean "shame", so the latter is a more logical conclusion to reach

Take from that what you will.
Still not answering specifically what I asked you. I'll take from that what I will... indeed.

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Nope, it's an indication that I agree with MTVNs view, is that alright with you?
Absolutely, why would it not be alright with me Niamh? That's what makes the forum exist. Just comes across very much that anyone who doesn't happen to agree with both of your own opinions - that those opposing ones are incorrect and to be disregarded.

Perhaps you could explain why my own view, ie: that Jay meant to use the word 'sham' - cannot be equally regarded as plausible, as it's clear both you and MTVN feel that's simply not an option to be accepted (regardless of whether you are not in agreement).

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Absolutely, why would it not be alright with me Niamh? That's what makes the forum exist. Just comes across very much that anyone who doesn't happen to agree with both of your own opinions - that those opposing ones are incorrect and to be disregarded.

Perhaps you could explain why my own view, ie: that Jay meant to use the word 'sham' - cannot be equally regarded as plausible, as it's clear both you and MTVN feel that's simply not an option to be accepted (regardless of whether you are not in agreement).
Even if he did mean 'sham', I would completely understand why he'd say that. Afterall, Alex said on national telly that she'd split the £30k and she didn't. Bit of a sham that isn't it?!
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Absolutely, why would it not be alright with me Niamh? That's what makes the forum exist. Just comes across very much that anyone who doesn't happen to agree with both of your own opinions - that those opposing ones are incorrect and to be disregarded.

Perhaps you could explain why my own view, ie: that Jay meant to use the word 'sham' - cannot be equally regarded as plausible, as it's clear both you and MTVN feel that's simply not an option to be accepted (regardless of whether you are not in agreement).
You got all that from a smiley?

Because I fail to see how not staying in touch is a "sham" that doesn't even make sense. Shame does. Simples.
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Even if he did mean 'sham', I would completely understand why he'd say that. Afterall, Alex said on national telly that she'd split the £30k and she didn't. Bit of a sham that isn't it?!

Oh I agree 100%, it's a sham alright

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You got all that from a smiley?

Because I fail to see how not staying in touch is a "sham" that doesn't even make sense. Shame does. Simples.

No.... I got it from the part where you said, rather caustic in tone,
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Nope, it's an indication that I agree with MTVNs view, is that alright with you?
Because his comment was less to do with people staying in touch (ie due to frienship)... I feel it was more to do with staying in touch - to share the winnings.... hence why he said SHAM.

As for saying 'sham' doesn't even make sense - it appears even the fm, Jo1791 even is prepared to accept that what Jay said, could have been meant as in SHAM, not SHAME.

I find it quite strange that you cannot accept another fms opinion, even though you may not agree with it.
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I think that, in my mind, to hold a dogmatic adherence to "the facts" would be a bit foolish in this instance considering that, what I consider to be logic and common sense would lead most to believe it much more likely that it was a simple misspelling, as is a frequent occurrence in Jay's tweets
I didn't ask what you considered in your mind.

I asked quite specifically if you are inferring that my own very reasoned posts, based on factual content in respect of Jay's actual tweet - cannot be regarded as being based on logic and common sense. Whether I am being rigid in using the basis of Jay's actual wording or not.

I don't think I'm being unreasonable in asking you to very clearly, very specifically answer what I asked.
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I didn't ask what you considered in your mind.

I asked quite specifically if you are inferring that my own very reasoned posts, based on factual content in respect of Jay's actual tweet - cannot be regarded as being based on logic and common sense. Whether I am being rigid in using the basis of Jay's actual wording or not.

I don't think I'm being unreasonable in asking you to very clearly, very specifically answer what I asked.
Look, as far as I can see the only reason to think that he meant "sham" was that there is no "e" on the end of the way he spelt it, whereas there are plenty of reasons to think that he did indeed mean "shame", so the latter is a more logical conclusion to reach

Take from that what you will.
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