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Old 10-12-2011, 12:19 AM #1
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I'm not sure if it is the right move from a pragmatic point of view, but I do hold a smidgen of respect for him for standing up to Sarkozy and Merkel and living up to his word

Ah well, we might have lost the support of the Eurozone but at least we can rely on Hungary!

Edit - Oh I've just realised that they haven't vetoed it as was earlier thought, but they're referring it to their Parliaments along with Sweden and the Czech Republic, it really is just us atm then

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I'm not sure if it is the right move from a pragmatic point of view, but I do hold a smidgen of respect for him for standing up to Sarkozy and Merkel and living up to his word

Ah well, we might have lost the support of the Eurozone but at least we can rely on Hungary!

Edit - Oh I've just realised that they haven't vetoed it as was earlier thought, but they're referring it to their Parliaments along with Sweden and the Czech Republic, it really is just us atm then

ummm he stood up to them??? no he didn't, he just walked away. how is that standing up??? lol

"standing up to them" would mean he actually had some kind of power and leadership or atleast the slightest bit of INFLUENCE over the whole thing... clearly that is not the case...
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ummm he stood up to them??? no he didn't, he just walked away. how is that standing up??? lol

"standing up to them" would mean he actually had some kind of power and leadership or atleast the slightest bit of INFLUENCE over the whole thing... clearly that is not the case...
You do realise that both Sarkozy and Merkel have been meeting with Cameron over the last few weeks, intent to try and persuade him of the treaty's merits? Clearly they hoped, and expected, him to vote in favour of it, him vetoing is a big kick in the teeth to them
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You do realise that both Sarkozy and Merkel have been meeting with Cameron over the last few weeks, intent to try and persuade him of the treaty's merits? Clearly they hoped, and expected, him to vote in favour of it, him vetoing is a big kick in the teeth to them
I fear you are wasting your well-informed breath, MTVN.
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I'm not sure if it is the right move from a pragmatic point of view, but I do hold a smidgen of respect for him for standing up to Sarkozy and Merkel and living up to his word

Ah well, we might have lost the support of the Eurozone but at least we can rely on Hungary!

Edit - Oh I've just realised that they haven't vetoed it as was earlier thought, but they're referring it to their Parliaments along with Sweden and the Czech Republic, it really is just us atm then








And the the Guardian views it like this




Markets work in the UK on a International Basis
which includeds Europe.


Even LibDem Clegg said the PM
went with a fair deal but the Euro New Gang do not want the UK.

Well French Frogg and German Sausage - Up Yours, I tell you.
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