[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kefln

She's not some evil ice queen. People have affairs everyday, its a sad fact of life. Everyone has a secret, some worse than others.

And I don't think she's blasé about the affair. She just seems to have accepted that its out there, that everyone knows about it. But lets not forget that her husband Rhodri is meant to have had an affair too - Danielle somebody? Course we could talk about Ryan...super injunction anyone?

anyone who can carry on an affair with for 8 years, and with the brother of her husband does not have a heart of gold.

She was cold hearted enough to string her husband along for that length of time - as secrets go, that's pretty high up on my list of bad ones. That's my opinion and I'm happy to stick with it.

Her husband isn't in the BB house, we're discussing Natasha, who is in the BB house.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

anyone who can carry on an affair with for 8 years, and with the brother of her husband does not have a heart of gold.

She was cold hearted enough to string her husband along for that length of time - as secrets go, that's pretty high up on my list of bad ones. That's my opinion and I'm happy to stick with it.

Her husband isn't in the BB house, we're discussing Natasha, who is in the BB house.

I agree.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

anyone who can carry on an affair with for 8 years, and with the brother of her husband does not have a heart of gold.

She was cold hearted enough to string her husband along for that length of time - as secrets go, that's pretty high up on my list of bad ones. That's my opinion and I'm happy to stick with it.

Her husband isn't in the BB house, we're discussing Natasha, who is in the BB house.

Who said anything about a heart of gold?

And its hard to know what went on behind closed doors and super injunctions. There was obviously marital issues, family problems, abuse and distrust on all sides.

Having an affair doesn't make you a bad person. Having an affair with your partners sibling is taking things to an extreme. But she might still be a nice lady who got caught up in a love triangle that included a world famous soccer star.

I'm happy to stick with my philosophy that we all have secrets...

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kefln

Who said anything about a heart of gold?

And its hard to know what went on behind closed doors and super injunctions. There was obviously marital issues, family problems, abuse and distrust on all sides.

Having an affair doesn't make you a bad person. Having an affair with your partners sibling is taking things to an extreme. But she might still be a nice lady who got caught up in a love triangle that included a world famous soccer star.

I'm happy to stick with my philosophy that we all have secrets...

I did - in response to your comment that she's not some sort of evil ice queen. A person has to have a hard cold core to them to deceive someone they love, and marry (after the affair began) and continue the affair. That's my view. Having an 8 year affair doesn't make a person a good person in my eyes.

[BJ]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I did - in response to your comment that she's not some sort of evil ice queen. A person has to have a hard cold core to them to deceive someone they love, and marry (after the affair began) and continue the affair. That's my view. Having an 8 year affair doesn't make a person a good person in my eyes.

I totally agree with you. Having an affair with your husband's brother is pretty low in my estimation. That's her claim to fame! Perhaps we do all make mistakes but she's obviously got very morals and I hope she's out early.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I did - in response to your comment that she's not some sort of evil ice queen. A person has to have a hard cold core to them to deceive someone they love, and marry (after the affair began) and continue the affair. That's my view. Having an 8 year affair doesn't make a person a good person in my eyes.

There are very few black and whites in life. And things are always easy to judge when sitting outside looking in and placing blame.

There was 5 people involved in this affair, that we are allowed talk about, not including the kids. 4 of which were screwing around. Thats a pretty messed up situation.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kefln

There are very few black and whites in life. And things are always easy to judge when sitting outside looking in and placing blame.

There was 5 people involved in this affair, that we are allowed talk about, not including the kids. 4 of which were screwing around. Thats a pretty messed up situation.

I don't give a rats arse tbh about the 'black n white scenarios'.

You don't marry a man when you are having an affair with his married brother: and most certainly you don't marry the guy and keep continuing with the affair. That's my take on it - you find all the excuses in the world for her but I'm more than happy with my understanding of the word 'decent', and never could I regard her as a 'good egg'.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't give a rats arse tbh about the 'black n white scenarios'.

You don't marry a man when you are having an affair with his married brother: and most certainly you don't marry the guy and keep continuing with the affair. That's my take on it - you find all the excuses in the world for her but I'm more than happy with my understanding of the word 'decent', and never could I regard her as a 'good egg'.

Is Ryan Giggs a fundamentally bad person as well then?

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't give a rats arse tbh about the 'black n white scenarios'.

You don't marry a man when you are having an affair with his married brother: and most certainly you don't marry the guy and keep continuing with the affair. That's my take on it - you find all the excuses in the world for her but I'm more than happy with my understanding of the word 'decent', and never could I regard her as a 'good egg'.

Fine by be - I couldn't give d*mn!

We watch these people for 3 weeks, then they and we, move on with our/their lives. Judge away if it makes you happy.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Is Ryan Giggs a fundamentally bad person as well then?

Yes. Absolutely.

Originally Posted by kefln

Fine by be - I couldn't give d*mn!

We watch these people for 3 weeks, then they and we, move on with our/their lives. Judge away if it makes you happy.

I will and it does.