[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Angus

That's what happens with a generation who have been brought up to have a sense of entitlement and an over-inflated sense of self worth. A lot of graduates these days have degrees that are of no use to any employer - whose fault is that? She should be grateful she has a job at all.

She doesn't have a job, she's being ordered to do this work at Poundland unpaid or lose her benefits despite the fact that she was already doing voluntary work, it's stupid

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

She doesn't have a job, she's being ordered to do this work at Poundland unpaid or lose her benefits despite the fact that she was already doing voluntary work, it's stupid

so she's getting money to do work... i'm sorry, what's the problem?? i don't understand.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

so she's getting money to do work... i'm sorry, what's the problem?? i don't understand.

She's on benefits and was doing voluntary work at the same time, now she's being forced to do work in Poundland instead while still not getting paid what she would if it was a proper job, it's ridiculous, if Poundland can create these jobs for people to do as unpaid labour then why can't they actually give people actual jobs??

I dunno if people are misunderstanding this or something, this is not a job, most were against thus idea not long ago http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=191490

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

She's on benefits and was doing voluntary work at the same time, now she's being forced to do work in Poundland instead while still not getting paid what she would if it was a proper job, it's ridiculous, if Poundland can create these jobs for people to do as unpaid labour then why can't they actually give people actual jobs??

I dunno if people are misunderstanding this or something, most were against thus idea not long ago http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=191490

so why doesn't she get a job at poundland and stop claiming benefits then??

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

so why doesn't she get a job at poundland and stop claiming benefits then??

Because for some reason Poundland can't offer a proper job but they can offer these unpaid "work placements" instead

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

She's on benefits and was doing voluntary work at the same time, now she's being forced to do work in Poundland instead while still not getting paid what she would if it was a proper job, it's ridiculous, if Poundland can create these jobs for people to do as unpaid labour then why can't they actually give people actual jobs??

I dunno if people are misunderstanding this or something, this is not a job, most were against thus idea not long ago http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=191490

Exactly.

This new scheme is stupid and will only end up with more people unemployed in the long run, once employers realise they can get free labour instead of paying min wage to their current workers

Yeah some will say it will be monitored so that this doesnt happen...the government couldnt monitor their own toilet habits, nevermind something like this.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Exactly.

This new scheme is stupid and will only end up with more people unemployed in the long run, once employers realise they can get free labour instead of paying min wage to their current workers

Yeah some will say it will be monitored so that this doesnt happen...the government couldnt monitor their own toilet habits, nevermind something like this.

Olllllld thread, but told ya this would happen.

http://www.boycottworkfare.org/

This week, Boycott Workfare has been contacted by a concerned member of staff working at high street retailer Shoe Zone. Their first hand experience, which they bravely wanted to share with us all, provides yet more evidence that workfare is replacing paid jobs. As with Argos and Superdrug, Shoezone are using ‘work experience’ from the job centre to cover the busy Christmas period instead of employing temporary staff or giving current staff the option of over-time.

I dont understand how ANYONE can defend workfare at all. Even if you think jobseekers are scroungers and that, surely you can see that this is bad for the country? Ridding us of paid jobs and replacing them with free staff while allowing massive companies to up their profits at the cost of the tax payer.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by MTVN

She doesn't have a job, she's being ordered to do this work at Poundland unpaid or lose her benefits despite the fact that she was already doing voluntary work, it's stupid

That's the rules for all people claiming JSA - it's supposed to give people some work experience, particularly those like her who've probably never done a day's work in their lives. She's not a special case, so why does she think she's exempt from the rules?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Angus

That's the rules for all people claiming JSA - it's supposed to give people some work experience, particularly those like her who've probably never done a day's work in their lives. She's not a special case, so why does she think she's exempt from the rules?

She was already doing voluntary work experience, and in the sector where she actually wants to work full time - a heck of a lot more useful than sweeping floors at Poundland

[Angus]

Originally Posted by MTVN

She was already doing voluntary work experience, and in the sector where she actually wants to work full time - a heck of a lot more useful than sweeping floors at Poundland

Sadly, the Jobcentre is more interested in "punishing" people for having the audacity to be out of work - their assumption being that all the unemployed are a bunch of workshy, lazy scroungers. Therefore, they devise ways to ensure that claiming benefits is as unpleasant as possible in the misguided belief that people will stop claiming and start working. Just one major flaw in their logic - there are dozens of applicants for every job going, so those that really want to work are being punished along with the bone idle scroungers.

Poundland is just one of thousands of employers who participate in the "punishment" since they have the benefit of free labour whilst the Government can appease the masses by demonstrating that those claiming benefits are not getting something for nothing.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Angus

Sadly, the Jobcentre is more interested in "punishing" people for having the audacity to be out of work - their assumption being that all the unemployed are a bunch of workshy, lazy scroungers. Therefore, they devise ways to ensure that claiming benefits is as unpleasant as possible in the misguided belief that people will stop claiming and start working. Just one major flaw in their logic - there are dozens of applicants for every job going, so those that really want to work are being punished along with the bone idle scroungers.

Poundland is just one of thousands of employers who participate in the "punishment" since they have the benefit of free labour whilst the Government can appease the masses by demonstrating that those claiming benefits are not getting something for nothing.

I actually completely agree with that