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Old 16-01-2012, 01:12 PM #51
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ITS BAD because you are supposed to respect the dead, no matter what, even executed criminals, gets a proper respect and burial.
I thing everyone will agree, that its 'THAT BAD". The only thing is, I am not surprised, that it does happen.
dude, they just shot them dead with a high powered rifle. I would think that respect may take a back seat here


i would be looking for the pre-death respect
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If it wasn't for America, you'd be a Soviet Republic right now. Don't forget that. You had no defense from the soviets just like the rest of post war europe. The only reason democracy survived in Europe was because of American protection. That's a SOLID FACT.
And this is relevant, how?

I've never stated that America has never done anything good, I just said you have an unofficial empire - which you demonstrably do.

Your point reads a little like "if my auntie had bollocks, she'd be my uncle". No one knows what would have played out after WWII. There are no solid facts in speculation.
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And this is relevant, how?

I've never stated that America has never done anything good, I just said you have an unofficial empire - which you demonstrably do.

Your point reads a little like "if my auntie had bollocks, she'd be my uncle". No one knows what would have played out after WWII. There are no solid facts in speculation.
No, America is not an Empire, an Empire conquors. America is invited into every country it has military personel in.

Name one country where there are American military personel that are not given permission by the country they are in??

You make no sense.
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No, America is not an Empire, an Empire conquors. America is invited into every country it has military personel in.

Name one country where there are American military personel that are not given permission by the country they are in??

You make no sense.
Iraq. Afghanistan. What do I win?
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Iraq. Afghanistan. What do I win?
America military is not in Iraq we left last year, and America is asked to be in Afghanistan by the democratically elected government of Afghanistan. If the Afghan government asked all American troops to leave tomorrow, we'd be out.
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America military is not in Iraq we left last year, and America is asked to be in Afghanistan by the democratically elected government of Afghanistan. If the Afghan government asked all American troops to leave tomorrow, we'd be out.
You mean the guy that the West installed as leader of their puppet government and who heads one of the most corrupt countries in the world where electoral fraud is rife? That democratically elected government?
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America military is not in Iraq we left last year, and America is asked to be in Afghanistan by the democratically elected government of Afghanistan. If the Afghan government asked all American troops to leave tomorrow, we'd be out.
Talk about ignoring the truth.

There are still US military training teams in Iraq.

Saddam Hussein didnt invite US forces into the country in the first place nor did the Taliban invite US forces into Afghanistan. I think the fact that both of those fought the Americans when they decided to pop into those countries could be seen as a request for the American forces to leave.
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sick vile twats
there is no way of condoning this sort of behaviour AT ALL.

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theyre making problems for america worse.
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Why did they urinate on dead bodies for? it's unnecessary and vulgar.
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Why did they urinate on dead bodies for? it's unnecessary and vulgar.
Possibly to show their contempt for the enemy that they had just taken out in a firefight. To show how macho they were and to pose for the prat with the camera.
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Possibly to show their contempt for the enemy that they had just taken out in a firefight. To show how macho they were and to pose for the prat with the camera.
It's just vile though,afterall those Afghans was only following orders from currupt higher ups in Al Qaeda.
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doesnt matter who you are. nobody deserves to get pissed on when they die. pricks need to be chucked out the army NOW!!

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You mean the guy that the West installed as leader of their puppet government and who heads one of the most corrupt countries in the world where electoral fraud is rife? That democratically elected government?
No, i mean the democratically elected leader/goverment of Afghanistan, election monitored by the UN and many independent witnesses. you think elections were more free under the Taliban?? The people voted in that election under the thread of death by the Taliban terrorists, how dare you degrade those brave people's votes.

When's the last time you had to go out to vote under the threat from terrorists? I think it's very sad that you are trying to demean the effort put by the brave souls that voted in that election. Voting in that country is literally takes epic bravery, and for you to demean that disgusts me.
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No, i mean the democratically elected leader/goverment of Afghanistan, election monitored by the UN and many independent witnesses. you think elections were more free under the Taliban?? The people voted in that election under the thread of death by the Taliban terrorists, how dare you degrade those brave people's votes.

When's the last time you had to go out to vote under the threat from terrorists? I think it's very sad that you are trying to demean the effort put by the brave souls that voted in that election.
Nice try.

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this.

Why did the Native Americans cut off the scalps of white settlers in America after the various battles?

Taking trophies and demeaning the dead of the enemy is part of war historically. This is not new.
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Nice try.

Moral outrage, while attempting to divert everyone from the fact you got pwned.

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It's not my job to educate you. If you have a problem with the elections in Afghanistan, take it up with the UN who supervised it.
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doesnt matter who you are. nobody deserves to get pissed on when they die. pricks need to be chucked out the army NOW!!
Try telling that to a group of generally poorly educated young men who a few minutes earlier were fighting for their lives. Men who go through the same sort of extreme high pressure day, for weeks on end.

Men who know if they get taken captive by the enemy who hates them with a religious fervour wont be treated according to the Geneva Convention but will be tortured in the most painful way by that same enemy.

Live under those conditions for a few weeks and maybe you will start to understand why they did what they did.
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No, i mean the democratically elected leader/goverment of Afghanistan, election monitored by the UN and many independent witnesses. you think elections were more free under the Taliban?? The people voted in that election under the thread of death by the Taliban terrorists, how dare you degrade those brave people's votes.

When's the last time you had to go out to vote under the threat from terrorists? I think it's very sad that you are trying to demean the effort put by the brave souls that voted in that election. Voting in that country is literally takes epic bravery, and for you to demean that disgusts me.
Lmao I'm not demeaning the voters, if anything you are by making out they were taking part in legitimate elections under a legitimate government

You realise Afghanistan is the 3rd most corrupt country in the world http://www.transparency.org/policy_r...i/2010/results

And that there was a lot of evidence of fraud in the last elections http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11353711
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It's not my job to educate you. If you have a problem with the elections in Afghanistan, take it up with the UN who supervised it.
Its a good thing it isnt your job because you would fail miserably.

I dont have a problems with elections in Afghanistan, they dont affect me, and am wise enough to realise the situation in that part of the world is what it is.

I do however have a problem with people who post their opinion then when challenged on it try in some way to throw dirt at others.
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Lmao I'm not demeaning the voters, if anything you are by making out they were taking part in legitimate elections under a legitimate government

You realise Afghanistan is the 3rd most corrupt country in the world http://www.transparency.org/policy_r...i/2010/results

And that there was a lot of evidence of fraud in the last elections http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11353711
well really that only shows how transparent they are, even if it was transparently currupt. how many government are holding elections that have no monitorring and no one see's how currupt they are?

When's the last time China even had an election? just out of curiosity...
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Its a good thing it isnt your job because you would fail miserably.

I dont have a problems with elections in Afghanistan, they dont affect me, and am wise enough to realise the situation in that part of the world is what it is.

I do however have a problem with people who post their opinion then when challenged on it try in some way to throw dirt at others.
ok, so after yu throw dirt, you don't like people to throw it back? really?

something about black houses and glass kettles comes to mind... wait, what?
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ok, so after yu throw dirt, you don't like people to throw it back? really?

something about black kettles and glass houses comes to mind... hmmmm
You mean kettles and pots and grimey arses? Or throwing stones in Glass houses?

Looks like you are suffering from a bad case of mixed metaphors mate.

If you want to educate us at least get your proverbs correct. People might even look upon your posts as more than some ramblings from a PTT
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