[lostalex]

Obviously i meant the muslim militants in general. Our Enemy. DO you think those soldiers pissing on those bodies gave a fook whether they were taliban, al queada or just some local idiot with a bomb? Ofcourse not. Anyways... Yur just arguing for fun now.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Obviously i meant the muslim militants in general. Our Enemy. DO you think those soldiers pissing on those bodies gave a fook whether they were taliban, al queada or just some local idiot with a bomb? Ofcourse not. Anyways... Yur just arguing for fun now.

No not arguing for fun just pointing out the errors in your arguments. If you dont want your points picked to bits present facts not wild assed fantasies.

Those troops fell short of the standards expected for combatants under the Law of Armed Conflict, under the US Military Code of Justice and under the laws of the US.

Whether or not the current enemy they are fighting or previous enemies they have fought against did similar or worse is of no consequence, they have standards to live up to. Those marines failed to live up to those standards and should be punished.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Shasown

No not arguing for fun just pointing out the errors in your arguments. If you dont want your points picked to bits present facts not wild assed fantasies.

Those troops fell short of the standards expected for combatants under the Law of Armed Conflict, under the US Military Code of Justice and under the laws of the US.

Whether or not the current enemy they are fighting or previous enemies they have fought against did similar or worse is of no consequence, they have standards to live up to. Those marines failed to live up to those standards and should be punished.

nothing i said was "wild" or fantastical.

I agree that the marines should have followed the codes of the marines, and i especially think they shouldn't have filmed themselves acting so unprofessionally. we arn't disagreeing about that.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

nothing i said was "wild" or fantastical.

I agree that the marines should have followed the codes of the marines, and i especially think they shouldn't have filmed themselves acting so unprofessionally. we arn't disagreeing about that.

Wildly inaccurate though.

You said that "Umm, they've done much worse to the bodies of dead American " and "i've seen videos of them dragging dead american soldiers". I am not aware of the Taliban mutilating bodies after death.

When I was in Afghanistan - 2002-2003 (pull up a sandbag and swing that tilley) we all knew to be captured by the Taliban you would be tortured and suffer, but your body when dead would be treated fairly decently. Left where it would be found and recovered relatively quickly.

The reasons for that derive from their religious beliefs, you can do what you like to a person especially an enemy while alive within the examples set in the Hadith, but a body becomes sacrosanct even the body of infidels. Besides they like injuries and torture to be apparent on their enemy so that word of the brutality spreads terror among their enemy.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Shasown

You also said that "Umm, they've done much worse to the bodies of dead American " and "i've seen videos of them dragging dead american soldiers". I am not aware of the Taliban mutilating bodies after death.

When I was in Afghanistan - 2002-2003 (pull up a sandbag and swing that tilley) we all knew to be captured by the Taliban you would be tortured and suffer, but your body when dead would be treated fairly decently. Left where it would be found and recovered relatively quickly.

The reasons for that derive from their religious beliefs, you can do what you like to a person especially an enemy while alive within the examples set in the Hadith, but a body becomes sacrosanct even the body of infidels. Besides they like injuries and torture to be apparent on their enemy so that word of the brutality spreads terror among their enemy.

oh well that mustv'e been so comforting.

I wonder how many of these bodies that were tortured and suffered so much were picked up by these marines? Something tells me, finding yur buddy after being tortured, no matter how respectfully it was treated might not bring them much solace...

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

oh well that mustv'e been so comforting.

I wonder how many of these bodies that were tortured and suffered so much were picked up by these marines? Something tells me, finding yur buddy after being tortured, no matter how respectfully it was treated might not bring them much solace...

By those marines, probably none. There have been very few NATO forces captured or kidnapped by the Taliban, even fewer during the original incursion into the country.

We only had the tales of Russian troops captured on their little holiday there to go on.

Very few of the troops captured by the Taliban over the last few years received any sort of ill treatment.

Those troops might however have seen their mates shot or worse killed or injured by IEDs, not particularly pleasant either way.