Originally Posted by lostalex

So you're telling me that you can tell a jew from a gentile just by looking at them? That's racist.

So you are saying that if you can't tell the ethnic history of someone, just by looking at them, then they all belong to "white European?" Think about that statement a little more, then really think which of those statements is racist.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

So you are saying that if you can't tell the ethnic history of someone, just by looking at them, then they all belong to "white European?" Think about that statement a little more, then really think which of those statements is racist.

NO, i've said before, that everyone is mixed race, that's why it's not just the stereotypes about how you look that makes you a certain race,. I'M SAYINg that racism is about PERCEIVING someone as DIFFERENT and INFERIOR that makes it racism.

If you PERCEIVE someone as DIFFERENT, whether because of culture, ethnicity, religion, nationality it's all racism. It's all the same type of PREJUDICE. because that's what racism is, prejudice.

Originally Posted by lostalex

NO, i've said before, that everyone is mixed race, that's why it's not just the stereotypes about how you look that makes you a certain race,. I'M SAYINg that racism is about PERCEIVING someone as DIFFERENT and INFERIOR that makes it racism.

If you PERCEIVE someone as DIFFERENT, whether because of culture, ethnicity, religion, nationality it's all racism. It's all the same type of PREJUDICE. because that's what racism is, prejudice.

What about if that group of people, namely Jews, perceive themselves differently, solely because of culture, ethnicity, religion, etc?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

What about if that group of people, namely Jews, perceive themselves differently, solely because of culture, ethnicity, religion, etc?

Like i said before, anti-semitism IS racism. Hitler was a racist, even though the jews and gays he killed were mostly white skinned. Racism is more about culture than it is about skin color, imo.

Originally Posted by lostalex

Like i said before, anti-semitism IS racism. Hitler was a racist, even though the jews and gays he killed were mostly white skinned. Racism is more about culture than it is about skin color, imo.

You're going round in circles. Antisemitism is racist, because the Semites (Jews) are a race of people. Skin colour is irrelevant, and I don't think anyone in this thread has said it's about skin colour.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

You're going round in circles. Antisemitism is racist, because the Semites (Jews) are a race of people. Skin colour is irrelevant, and I don't think anyone in this thread has said it's about skin colour.

actually you said because Americans are majority white european decent, then it's not racism.

And so if someone is anti-semetic to someone who is not "racially" jewish, like a convert, then you don't think that's racist anymore? Like whoopi Goldberg, if someone said something anti-semetic to Whoopi Goldberg you'd say it wasn't racist, because she's not "racially" jewish?? really?

Originally Posted by lostalex

actually you said because Americans are majority white european decent, then it's not racism.

And so if someone is anti-semetic to someone who is not "racially" jewish, like a convert, then you don't think that's racist anymore? Like whoopi Goldberg, if someone said something anti-semetic to Whoopi Goldberg you'd say it wasn't racist, because she's not "racially" jewish?? really?

I was just making the point that Americans are Europeans. So being racist against your own racial group is on the difficult side. In fact, it becomes xenophobia, which clarifies my original argument.

I would expect everyone everywhere to be disturbed by racism. I just wouldn't expect people to have to go to such lengths to try and manufacture a racism debate.