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View Poll Results: Do you believe in ghosts?
I believe in ghosts! 16 38.10%
I believe in ghosts!
16 38.10%
I do not believe in ghosts! 12 28.57%
I do not believe in ghosts!
12 28.57%
I am not sure, I don't know what to believe. 14 33.33%
I am not sure, I don't know what to believe.
14 33.33%
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:41 PM #25
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Nah the throw away line was the only one I could be erssed taking you to task over.

Deepak Chopra? Nah read some of his work and thought he was just repackaging and modernising some older ideas, some say the epitome of pseudoscience.

I was thinking more basic laws than you incorrectly pre-supposed, but hey on you go matey.

Your mind is closed to the possibility of some sort of phenomena that people call ghosts actually existing. Multiple universes, multiple timelines, energy imprints, empathic feelings and a few other theories could explain said phenomena but hey you decided that ghosts have to be the residual spirit of a once living being hanging around on this earthly plane. And obviously that couldnt possibly happen could it?
Well you haven't taken me to task at all. I guess it's all about perspective.

As for my mind being closed on the different kind of examples you list, well you're just wrong. But let's be honest here, when people talk about ghosts, they are talking about a very specific thing.

Another problem I have, is that as of yet, there is just no way to test for such things. How can my mind be closed, when I don't know enough about theoretical physics to begin to work out a model for such things? It's one thing to call me (incorrectly) closed minded, but it's another thing all together, to be so open minded that your brain falls out.

If you have a theory for how to test for such things as empathic imprints on the universe, then be my guest.

All I know now, is that there is absolutely no reason currently, to believe that ghosts/afterlife can exist. Just like all disciplines of science - show me your hypothesis and how you plan to test it.

I'll genuinely, have absolutely no problem changing my mind should new evidence come to light, but as of now, then there isn't anything that you've written, that could even begin to tempt me, and I know you want to paint that as closed minded, but it's not. It's not closed minded for the same reason that biologists don't study intelligent design. Namely, it's untestable, unprovable, pseudo-science.

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