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Old 21-03-2012, 12:44 AM #51
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Yea I think it's the context the word is used in. If friends are saying in a fun and friendly way, I think it's a good word.

But when it's used as an insult or in a derogatory way, then that's wrong.
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Just chipping in my opinion, but seeing the word 'Niglets' did make me chuckle as I have never seen it before. Does not mean I will be using that word, nor would I condone a white person using it. But I have no issue with black people using to talk about other black people.
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Well of course I acknowledge the history and think what white people did back then was ****ing horrible.

But to say I should feel shame for something I was no part of...well...that was more my point.
Well the thing is that means every country,race,gender,and sexuality would have to feel shame for stuff that someone or some people did in the past,imo that should not be allowed,even the Germans should be let off for what Hitler did.
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Why, because when they use it is not racist, it is just another insult.
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JF and Kizzy. I have never seen a black person say it is cool for their White friend to use the word.

The only possible exception is if yOu was all in a car rapping along to a tune, but even then my White friends usually leave the word out.
No what im getting at is if a white person got into trouble off The Police for saying ******,the white person could lie and say that there black friend doesn't mind them using the word.

Although I doubt they would avoid trouble lol.
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No what im getting at is if a white person got into trouble off The Police for saying ******,the white person could lie and say that there black friend doesn't mind them using the word.

Although I doubt they would avoid trouble lol.
A girl was thrown out of big brother for that.

She used the word, said she and her friends would say it in a friendly way. And BB kicked her out anyway.
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A girl was thrown out of big brother for that.

She used the word, said she and her friends would say it in a friendly way. And BB kicked her out anyway.
I remember that,she should have got a warning for it but as she didn't mean it in an offensive way she should never have been chucked out imo.
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I remember that,she should have got a warning for it but as she didn't mean it in an offensive way she should never have been chucked out imo.
And she certainly didnt need to be thrown out at 4am or whatever it was(hours after te actual incident, but for some reason in the middle of the night...), and with no knickers on
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A girl was thrown out of big brother for that.

She used the word, said she and her friends would say it in a friendly way. And BB kicked her out anyway.
Yeah. I don't think she was racist which some did. I just think she lived a fairly sheltered lifestyle where she had no idea how much offense she caused saying it.


Was the right decision mind.
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Yeah. I don't think she was racist which some did. I just think she lived a fairly sheltered lifestyle where she had no idea how much offense she caused saying it.


Was the right decision mind.
i disagree, she moved in circles where it was said as a positive....it was only the media spotlight that changed it.
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i disagree, she moved in circles where it was said as a positive....it was only the media spotlight that changed it.
You don't call someone you don't know a *****. I wouldn't even do it. She had no excuse.


It's a common sense. The fact she didn't know this shows me her black friends didn't educate her on the word properly or she made up that she uses it all the time.
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Why, because when they use it is not racist, it is just another insult.
Not true....I have never seen it used by black youths as an insult.
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You don't call someone you don't know a *****. I wouldn't even do it. She had no excuse.


It's a common sense. The fact she didn't know this shows me her black friends didn't educate her on the word properly or she made up that she uses it all the time.
For the record , I'm talking about a person face to face etc.


I call guys like Valencia and Evra my ******* all the time
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i couldn't stop laughing at this
basically I was in asda today and 2 black kids, about 4-5ish, were running around screaming, then a shelf stacker (who was also black) turned around and said "hey, would you please keep your niglets under control"
i couldn't believe it, she just ignored him and walked off whilst i stood there pmsl.
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Why, because when they use it is not racist, it is just another insult.
it is usually used as a friendly term
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Not true....I have never seen it used by black youths as an insult.
No offence to you intended here, you clearly don't know the black people I know. Yes, not all will use it or agree with it, but many of the them do use it.
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I was talking about the context of the original post.
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You don't call someone you don't know a *****. I wouldn't even do it. She had no excuse.


It's a common sense. The fact she didn't know this shows me her black friends didn't educate her on the word properly or she made up that she uses it all the time.
Its not common sense, common sense is inherant you dont need friends of any colour to teach you that.
Its mixed messages, it was acceptable in her social group.
If it is so derogatory and so offensive why is it used?
You don't get any other groups using a discriminatory word in general conversation.
In Bradford I would never hear 'Hi taj my p***! how are you?
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I was talking about the context of the original post.
oh, kizzy confused me

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Its not common sense, common sense is inherant you dont need friends of any colour to teach you that.
Its mixed messages, it was acceptable in her social group.
If it is so derogatory and so offensive why is it used?
You don't get any other groups using a discriminatory word in general conversation.
In Bradford I would never hear 'Hi taj my p***! how are you?
Not true. Many homosexuals will refer to themselves/others as, for example, a faggot or poofter.
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Kizzy, Jesus has said around 5 times why it is generally still used by black people.
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Its not common sense, common sense is inherant you dont need friends of any colour to teach you that.
Its mixed messages, it was acceptable in her social group.
If it is so derogatory and so offensive why is it used?
You don't get any other groups using a discriminatory word in general conversation.
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Not true. Many homosexuals will refer to themselves/others as, for example, a faggot or poofter.
Yeah and some Pakistani's do use "P*ki", could even say that some woman do it when they call a friend their "bitch"
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Not true. Many homosexuals will refer to themselves/others as, for example, a faggot or poofter.
I don't mean to be rude but we are talking about ethnicity here
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Its not common sense, common sense is inherant you dont need friends of any colour to teach you that.
Its mixed messages, it was acceptable in her social group.
If it is so derogatory and so offensive why is it used?
You don't get any other groups using a discriminatory word in general conversation.
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I don't mean to be rude but we are talking about ethnicity here
You should think about what your typing then
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I don't mean to be rude but we are talking about ethnicity here
Did you state that in your comment, I believe not. You merely said groups, not ethnic groups, so don't play pedantic with me.
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