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Old 31-03-2012, 12:31 PM #30
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My point is about modern day people trying to get you to believe their point of view, essentially sticking their fingers in their ears and closing their minds to other points of view.

Religious people have been imprisoning scientists for centuries because they were frightened by an alternative to God, when in fact science just goes about explaining the 'mysteries of God.' If religious people weren't so controlled by scare mongering, I truly believe that we'd be living in a world where science is just an explanation of what this grand idea of 'God' is. Of course I see the difference - I'm not a religious person (this is such a bizarre conversation to have with someone whose username's Jesus.H.Christ ) - but do you understand my point that I think religious people are ruled by fear of the unknown, hence their actions?

Intellectual issues are not worked out by mocking them, that's a ridiculous statement to make. Intellectual issues are solved through debate, yes, but not through ridicule. And in an earlier post, I've said, take away the ideas that don't apply to the modern world, and you are left with a list of morals that make sense to live by.
I'll quickly reply to the bits in bold, and thank you for taking the time to reply to me.

Science has nothing to do with any mysteries surrounding god for one very simple reason. Science deals only in the natural world, whereas "god" is a supernatural premise, and by definition, outside of nature and the natural world.

The problem, is that religion makes statements that collide against scientific knowledge. For example, take the resurrection, we know it is impossible for anyone to be re-animated after death, and creature that do, are called Zombies. Now you can claim that the bible is just full of stories, but that's not true. People base their beliefs and how they live their lives, on a document written by people ignorant of modern knowledge, and it reads as such.

Sorry, but again, you are completely incorrect. Mockery has been used for thousands of years, as a tool (not the major tool, but as part of debate armory nonetheless) to help defeat an argument. A quick viewing of PM questions will highlight this fact instantly.

Sometimes, to show how absurd someones argument is, you have to use language that shows the absurdity of it.

I have no issue with a list of morals to live your life by, but that is not the purpose of religion. Buddha said everything positive, that has been attributed to Jesus, but he did it 2000 years before. Religion doesn't want to offer a moral compass, it says that unless you believe x,y, and zee (see what I did there? ) you'll burn in hell for eternity.

My point, is that the moral compass offered by religion, are common sense virtues and don't need religion.

Did we really need a commandment from god to tell us not to go round murdering people? There is no way humanity would have got that far, if we believed it was a brilliant thing to do.

Last edited by Jesus.; 31-03-2012 at 12:33 PM.
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