[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745

The government will be able to monitor the calls, emails, texts and website visits of everyone in the UK under new legislation set to be announced soon.

Internet firms will be required to give intelligence agency GCHQ access to communications on demand, in real time.

The Home Office says the move is key to tackling crime and terrorism, but civil liberties groups have criticised it.

Attempts by the last Labour government to take similar steps failed after huge opposition, including from the Tories.

A new law - which may be announced in the forthcoming Queen's Speech in May - would not allow GCHQ to access the content of emails, calls or messages without a warrant.

But it would enable intelligence officers to identify who an individual or group is in contact with, how often and for how long.

And, given recent revelations about phone hacking and database disclosures, how long would such information remain secret ?

It would be the thin end of the wedge into a Big Brother world .....

Nick Pickles, director of the Big Brother Watch campaign group, called the move "an unprecedented step that will see Britain adopt the same kind of surveillance seen in China and Iran".

The previous Labour government attempted to introduce a central, government-run database of everyone's phone calls and emails, but eventually dropped the bid in the face of widespread anger (see below).

[joeysteele]

Labour tried to do this, and failed to pursue it due to massive opposition to it, oddly enough by the Conservative party then too,now they are advocating doing it.

If it was that much wrong before,for me it is still wrong now. I don't feel this policy can be trusted enough.

[Jack_]

As per usual, our civil liberties are being curbed in the name of counter terrorism

[Niall]

Tbh, if you have nothing to hide then you should have nothing to get flustered about.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Niall

Tbh, if you have nothing to hide then you should have nothing to get flustered about.

Everybody's got something to hide .....

[Kizzy]

I thought this was already in effect, its in the Civil Contingencies Act for counter terrorist measures.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niall

Tbh, if you have nothing to hide then you should have nothing to get flustered about.

You could use that to justify the most oppresive and intrusive measures though, I've nothing criminal to hide but that doesn't mean I'm comfortable with the state making such a blatant violation of privacy

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niall

Tbh, if you have nothing to hide then you should have nothing to get flustered about.

That's what they'd like you to believe. Personally, I don't think I'm all that trusting that my information wouldn't end up in the wrong hands.

Originally Posted by MTVN

You could use that to justify the most oppresive and intrusive measures though, I've nothing criminal to hide but that doesn't mean I'm comfortable with the state making such a blatant violation of privacy

And this.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niall

Tbh, if you have nothing to hide then you should have nothing to get flustered about.

Won't effect all of us
business customers are at another level.

[arista]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I thought this was already in effect, its in the Civil Contingencies Act for counter terrorist measures.

Yes it is in that Zone

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Won't effect all of us
business customers are at another level.

Why will it affect busines customers arista?

[King Gizzard]

So basically a lighter worded version similar to SOPA and PIPA?

Edit: Didn't read the warrant part, lul

[Kizzy]

Do you mean RIPA nathan, are you in the uk?

[King Gizzard]

Nope I'm in Trinidad

[Marc]

What a joke! They'll be monitoring my bowel movements next.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marc

What a joke! They'll be monitoring my bowel movements next.

Yes Germans
will do that.

[Shaun]

Because terrorists have hotmail accounts.

[Shaun]

blowitupbaby@hotmail.com wrote:
hey mohamed hows it goin cant wait to see u in chicago dont forget the chlorine! x

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Shaun

blowitupbaby@hotmail.com wrote:
hey mohamed hows it goin cant wait to see u in chicago dont forget the chlorine! x

sacrificingmyselftogod@msn.co.uk wrote:
I won't forget it, don't forget to pack your swim trucks Ahmed x

[Patrick]

Posted this ages ago, it's a joke.
Honestly, if you read 1984 and think about this - it's crazy.

[Patrick]

I honestly don't get why we don't unite and do something about it - like every country that this law is being put into action in.

That Kony Bollocks, the way that was hyped up - people should 'rebel' and sh*t the way they made out in that video, if people kicked up as big a fuss about this as they did over that Kony sh*te then maybe the government wouldn't feel they could get away with it so easily, because people just seem to take this lieing down.

[Marc]

Why do you feel the need to swear a lot

[Scarlett.]

Lets be sensible about this

61m people live in the United Kingdom
Around 60m people in the country will have a pretty boring internet history
The government will be interested in those who dont. The Government don't give a damn about what threads you are viewing on TiBB.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Marc

What a joke! They'll be monitoring my bowel movements next.

Don't give the Govt ideas Marc, they may not have thought of that one yet.

[Omah]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8020039.stm

Communications firms are being asked to record all internet contacts between people as part of a modernisation in UK police surveillance tactics.

The home secretary, Jacqui Smith, Labour, scrapped plans for a database but wants details to be held and organised for security services.

The new system would track all e-mails, phone calls and internet use, including visits to social network sites.

Shadow home secretary Chris Grayling, Conservative MP for Epsom and Ewell, said: "The big problem is that the government has built a culture of surveillance which goes far beyond counter terrorism and serious crime. Too many parts of Government have too many powers to snoop on innocent people and that's really got to change.

"It is good that the home secretary appears to have listened to Conservative warnings about big brother databases. Now that she has finally admitted that the public don't want their details held by the State in one place, perhaps she will look at other areas in which the Government is trying to do precisely that."

I believe we are now seeing what is called a "volte-face" from the Tories .....