[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well i guess the telegraph is more sophisticated than the italian justice system. i've read the telegraph before and i think that is QUITE an assumption. lol.

but hey, what you think doesn't mean anything, because you are not a lawyer, yur a conspiracy theorist. have fun with your conspiracies, and thank gawd yu are not in any position of power.

Oh ffs, you're impossible to have any reasonable debate with

You were just going on about what a "farce" the case is and now you're lauding the Italian justice system?

You obviously didn't read the article either

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh ffs, you're impossible to have any reasonable debate with

You were just going on about what a "farce" the case is and now you're lauding the Italian justice system?

You obviously didn't read the article either

lol, i was not lauding the italian justice system at all. Being more sophisticated than the Telegraph is not a high achievement.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by lostalex

lol, i was not lauding the italian justice system at all. Being more sophisticated than the Telegraph is not a high achievement.

Well there is obviously some debate over her innocence, I don't see how I am a conspiracy theorist when I even said "I'm not entirely sure if she was guilty or not"

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well there is obviously some debate over her innocence, I don't see how I am a conspiracy theorist when I even said "I'm not entirely sure if she was guilty or not"

well if you don't think there is a conspiracy, then why was she found innocent? If you believe she is guilty, then i assume you believe there is a conspiracy as far as you think the American government got involved in some way to ensure her release. that is a conspiracy theory.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well if you don't think there is a conspiracy, then why was she found innocent? If you believe she is guilty, then i assume you believe there is a conspiracy as far as you think the American government got involved in some way to ensure her release. that is a conspiracy theory.

Because courts can sometimes get it wrong, presumably you thought they were wrong to find her guilty originally, so were you a "conspiracy theorist" when you thought that?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Because courts can sometimes get it wrong, presumably you thought they were wrong to find her guilty originally, so were you a "conspiracy theorist" when you thought that?

no, because i didn't claim it was a conspiracy, i said i just think the tabloids influenced the first trial, and i think xenophobia against Americans influenced the first trial. as Italy does not sequester jurys, the jury was free to read all of the tabloid trash during the entire trial.

It was a failure of the Italian justice system, but thankfully the Italian justice system has a much more legitimate appeals process. in fact the appeal was more professionally executed than the original trial. imo.

It's also important to remember that Italy has the exact opposite justice system to the US and UK, in that you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by lostalex

no, because i didn't claim it was a conspiracy, i said i just think the tabloids influenced the first trial, as Italy does not sequester jury's. the jury was free to read all of the tabloid trash the entire trial.

It was a failure of the Italian justice system, but thankfully the Italian justice system has a much more legitimate appeals process. in fact the appeal was more professionally executed than the original trial. imo.

It's also important to remember that itally has the exact opposite justice system to the US and UK, in that you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

I'm not claiming it was a conspiracy either, I just think there wasn't enough evidence to be sure and the Italian police made serious mistakes during their investigation so they couldn't be 100% confident to uphold the verdict, but I don't rule out the possibility that she did do it, the Kercher family are still waiting for justice and still don't know what happened that night