[Sam:)]

Originally Posted by Omah

The so-called "massive changes" coincided with the decline in popularity of the series.

IIRC, Markus Blee was responsible for house design up BB5, after which it was taken over by Patrick Watson .....

Marcus Blee designed the BB11 house?

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Omah

The so-called "massive changes" coincided with the decline in popularity of the series.

IIRC, Markus Blee was responsible for house design up BB5, after which it was taken over by Patrick Watson .....

What are you going on about?

If we're judging how much the house is revamped by the amount of ratings the show gets why is this one still almost identical?

[Conor]

tbh the house barely changing is probably more do with the financial crises than ratings or being on 5 anything else. It can't be a coincidence that the house has barely changed since 2009 when money problems were getting worse everywhere. (BB11 is an exception because as C4's last series they obviously put a bit of effort into the design) Overall its probably one of the things that faced cuts as to most people the house doesn't really matter.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

What are you going on about?

If we're judging how much the house is revamped by the amount of ratings the show gets why is this one still almost identical?

Who's judging ?

Who mentioned ratings?

Not me .....

I merely pointed out that the period of "massive changes" (sic) to the house coincided with a decline in size of the show's audience - what you infer from that is up to you.

For me, the design of the BB6 and BB7 houses marked a decline in production standards which coincided with radical changes to the format of the show instigated by the promotions of the dreadful Phil Edgar-Jones to Creative Director of the Endemol series in January 2006 and the awful Sharon Powers (from C4) to Executive Producer soon after.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Omah

Who's judging ?

Who mentioned ratings?

Not me .....

I merely pointed out that the period of "massive changes" (sic) to the house coincided with a decline in size of the show's audience - what you infer from that is up to you.

For me, the design of the BB6 and BB7 houses marked a decline in production standards which coincided with radical changes to the format of the show instigated by the promotions of the dreadful Phil Edgar-Jones to Creative Director of the Endemol series in January 2006 and the awful Sharon Powers (from C4) to Executive Producer soon after.

Think you're looking into it too much.

[bbfan1991]

Wow the pictures of the house look awesome. Now I hope that they do not disappoint with the housemates!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

The so-called "massive changes" coincided with the decline in popularity of the series.

IIRC, Markus Blee was responsible for house design up BB5, after which it was taken over by Patrick Watson .....

Again... the house structure has bugger all to do with the ratings. You are the one that brought ratings into it. Re-read the thread, everyone's discussing house design and structure. You've got the wrong end of the stick. Moving on...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Marc

How do skyscrapers symbolise Las Vegas though? Lol I'd understand if there was an elvis statue or bright lights and maybe a little fountain lol but don't get it

It's a landscape picture of Las Vegas on the garden wall.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Again... the house structure has bugger all to do with the ratings.

Again - I never mentioned "ratings" .....

The house structure has, of course, always been a fundamental part of the production team's "creative" toolkit and has, from the start determined much of the HMs behaviour and the nature of the "season's" dynamics .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

You are the one that brought ratings into it.

I never mentioned "ratings" .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Think you're looking into it too much.

Think you're not looking into it enough.

[Donovan.]

Originally Posted by Marc

How is the garden Las Vegas themed?

They have that one las Vegas skyline mural by the pool. The rock walls in the bathroom and dining area as well as all of the desert plants represent the desert part of Vegas.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

I never mentioned "ratings" .....

You posted the average audience rating for each series. Nobody else.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Omah

I never mentioned "ratings" .....

decline in size of the show's audience

Is that not refering to ratings?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The only Las Vegas i can see is the can can girls wall paper in the bedroom and the glitzy glitarey walls outside the diary room.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Conor

tbh the house barely changing is probably more do with the financial crises than ratings or being on 5 anything else. It can't be a coincidence that the house has barely changed since 2009 when money problems were getting worse everywhere. (BB11 is an exception because as C4's last series they obviously put a bit of effort into the design) Overall its probably one of the things that faced cuts as to most people the house doesn't really matter.

This.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

The only Las Vegas i can see is the can can girls wall paper in the bedroom and the glitzy glitarey walls outside the diary room.

There's a huge landscape photo of it in the garden and the cave-like walls on one side leading into the bathroom.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Is that not refering to ratings?

(Program) Ratings are comparative amongst channels, a single program's audience capture tendency cannot be "rated" (compared) - a program could be losing an audience but going up in the ratings if it were rescheduled .....

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

(Program) Ratings are comparative amongst channels, a single program's audience capture tendency cannot be "rated" (compared) - a program could be losing an audience but going up in the ratings if it were rescheduled .....

Stop being a bloody smart-arse winding everyone up. You posted ratings/audience figures or whatever bloody pedantic description you want to give them. Either way they had sod all to do with Jordan's post.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

It still feels like a normal series to celeb series change.

When you think of C4 BB7 - BB8 - BB9 - BB10 for example, the changes were massive.

Originally Posted by Omah

Weren't they the years that audiences dropped off dramatically ?

BIG BROTHER 1 (2000): 4.5m
BIG BROTHER 2 (2001): 4.5m
BIG BROTHER 3 (2002): 5.8m
BIG BROTHER 4 (2003): 4.6m
BIG BROTHER 5 (2004): 5.1m
BIG BROTHER 6 (2005): 4.6m
BIG BROTHER 7 (2006): 4.7m
BIG BROTHER 8 (2007): 3.9m
BIG BROTHER 9 (2008): 3.6m [inc. +1]
BIG BROTHER 10 (2009): 2.5m [inc. +1]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Stop being a bloody smart-arse winding everyone up. You posted ratings/audience figures or whatever bloody pedantic description you want to give them. Either way they had sod all to do with Jordan's post.

IMO, they did.

Considering how much time FMs are spending talking about the house, it's obviously a major factor in the viewing experience. The design of each house influences the social dynamics of the HMs, which naturally plays the major part in attracting audiences (or not).

Thanks Omah for ruining the thread with your babbling. Just end it now.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by mathews220

Thanks Omah for ruining the thread with your babbling. Just end it now.

Please refrain from personal abuse.

Originally Posted by Omah

Please refrain from personal abuse.

LOL. That isn't abuse. You're just looking for any excuse to sound superior, and it's failing miserably.

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by mathews220

LOL. That isn't abuse. You're just looking for any excuse to sound superior, and it's failing miserably.

can we stay on topic

[Petershaw1984]

I think the general decline in viewers is simply because most people that watched it early on have grown up and got older. They now probably have better things to do with there time such as kids etc.
It's only core bb fans that have stuck around and for there to be about two million I think thats rather good.